1200 too light for the Tourances?

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Having lauded praise on the tourances on the 1200 last week (see Slippery Anakee thread), its now come back and bitten me in the bum!

This morning the tourances were spinning up on the cold dry roads, in 4th, 5th and even 6th on the M1 given a fistful of power (especially at or around 5K rpm)

Although it was controlled its a bit of a nuisance.

It has left me wondering whether the 12 is 'too light' for the tourances in the same way that putting Bt020s on ultra light sports 600 has the same effect, the tyres don't get warm enough to achieve maximum grip

Either that or the clutch is slipping...but then i'd smell the burning!
 
Doesn't matter what rubber you're using - with the roads in their present condition, anything's gonna spin up or get squirrely. Roads here need a good downpour for a couple of days to wash off all the shite and salt
 
I agree - its the lack of rain that's made all roads really slippy. The recent dry weather, plus salt, plus several weeks of deisel and rubber has created the worst I've seen for ages.

take care!

If it only rains a little then the roads'll turn even worse...they need a good hosing down...yes Noah...just coming....
 
Whilst i accept this, the other thing is the tyres don't feel hot after a run, especially the front, i presume these tyres don't retain their heat as well as 'sports rubber'
 
I'm not sure you can infer too much from the temperature of the tyre - different compounds have different ideal operating temperatures.

However if you really think your tyres need to be warmer you could let the pressure down by a couple of PSI. Beware the effect this might have on the handling though.
 
Check that you've not got too much preload on the rear shock - if you're not sure, back it off a little in steps & see what happens.
 
With the state of the roads around Reading I can understand where your coming from in terms of slipping. I left a roundabout last week and put some gentle power on in second and the needles all rose but I wasn't going any quicker, quite un-nerving (never had it on my CS - lighter than a GS). So just take it exceptionally easy aka 'driving Miss Daisy' style and once u get through winter the stickier times will come as tyre temps rise to normal.

Take it easy out there:D
 
had similar problems with my dunlop trailmax's over the weekend. easing off the rear preload helped a little. don't agree that it's just due to slippery road as the wife's cbr 600 on bridgestone 010's wasn't affected at all badly. and before you say anything she isn't a girlie, she knows what her right hand is for and she wasn't sparing the ponies.
 
This morning the tourances were spinning up on the cold dry roads, in 4th, 5th and even 6th on the M1 given a fistful of power (especially at or around 5K rpm)

When you say spinning up do you mean bouncing of the rev limiter nutter b@stard spinning up or.... shite I felt a twitch I'll back off and right a thread on the subject?


I very much doubt it' because your to light... I think you'll find max tourque is around 5000 which would help getting wheel spin or the clutch to slip.


It could be clutch slip due to dragging the lever...How's that you ask?

Well we all know 1200 riders have small dicks and people with samll dicks have small hands and with small hands your more likley to be holding the clutch in a touch to due to the real man reach of the levers :D :D :D :D
 
The only way you'd spin the rear tyre in 4th,5th and 6th is if you're riding on diesel or something equally as slippy.
The 1200GS at 100bhp simply isn't that powerful to consistently cause that situation.
Wreford Miles has probably summed it up.
 
You both are quite obviously limp wristed batty boys :P

opened up the throttle in 6th on the motorway and the revs went up very quickly, bike squirmed before settling back down again once i'd eased off the throttle.

Dave, its not all about beeeaitchpeees, its about the torque too, there is a step in the power delivery at around 5,000 rpm and i believe this is just enough to take it over its tractable limit, given the same bike on the same road wasn't doing the same thing a few months ago.

As a point in case the GS makes more torque than the Gsxr 1000, and puts it through a skinnier non-sport tyre!

So my original supposition still stands; that either the bike is too light for the tyres or possibly it is too cold to get enough warmth into them at this time of year or a combination thereof.

I should imagine sticking BT020s on a ZX-10 or 'blade would cause similar conditions!
 
Well I'm running Anakees and they're spinning up easily in these conditions, even on a moderate throttle round town.

Bit o' fun if you ask me:)
 
I agree that the roads are really slippery at present.
The tyres on the car - spin at the least provacation and traction control kicks in all the time
 
Yup they spin, it's the roads :D

It's getting fun now when I'm starting to get used to it :D :cool: :cool: :cool:
 
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