3 dealers BTW
True, but there is a standard UK build - the TE, which is the default UK model as that's what they have decided to market here
Most UK bikes are ordered to that spec, it's been that way for years
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3 dealers BTW
True, but there is a standard UK build - the TE, which is the default UK model as that's what they have decided to market here
Most UK bikes are ordered to that spec, it's been that way for years
3 dealers BTW
True, but there is a standard UK build - the TE, which is the default UK model as that's what they have decided to market here
Most UK bikes are ordered to that spec, it's been that way for years
All I can say is that I have never had an issue with my dealer - I have always ordered in advance paid a deposit, which was also subject to a satisfactory test ride. Planning ahead is the key, what's 8 weeks anyway if you get what you really want?
It doesn't release more power, it just means all the power goes to the back wheel and will bite you on the arse if you're not careful.
Read this earlier and just taken the LC out to try it. It doesn't 'cut' the ignition, it simply backs the power off.... if you grab a hand full on grass or gravel, the instant the rear wheel starts to spin the power to the wheel drops off, but it's not like shutting the throttle off.... hard to explain but it works very subtly and very well.
Switch the TC off and it turns into a rooster creating wheeling animal
Both my previous 1200's where bog standard apart from heated grips.
One was part exchanged and the other one sold privately. No problems with getting what I wanted for them.
Unless you change every year (which is madness) why worry about what it might be worth three or four years down the line.
One was part exchanged and the other one sold privately. No problems with getting what I wanted for them.
Unless you change every year (which is madness) why worry about what it might be worth three or four years down the line.
GS_or_bust
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The WC has a sensor that detects the movement of the rear suspension. You can see it next to the rear spring. It can tell how far the suspension has compressed when you, your pillion and luggage are on the bike. I expect this sensor is used as feedback for the adaptive damping control, I am not sure if it is used for pre-load feedback.
Read this earlier and just taken the LC out to try it. It doesn't 'cut' the ignition, it simply backs the power off.... if you grab a hand full on grass or gravel, the instant the rear wheel starts to spin the power to the wheel drops off, but it's not like shutting the throttle off.... hard to explain but it works very subtly and very well.
Thanks Paul
Seems more subtle than than earlier 1200's
How bits work
The ESA works by sensing the weight on the spring v shock shaft movement it can then add preload to the spring ( the big black box on the side of the shock) it will then via electro servos open or close the damping valves to suit. The ecu that controls all this will have pre determined maps installed so will choose a setting that corilates to the parameters programmed. As for the traction control that again works by reading info from the wheel sensors, engine,and gearbox, this is then read by the ecu which then decideds by how much to chop the power. It probably combines spark, fuelling and throttle butterfly to achieve this and if its been adapted from a car system it may also use the ABS system to brake the rear wheel. Very sophisticated and probably one of the most advanced systems out there on a bike. Still about 5 years behind cars but in fairness the car systems are now getting silly. Adaptive laser guided cruise control
so set your cruise at 100mph and let the car do the rest
I'll stick with my analogue 1150
The ESA works by sensing the weight on the spring v shock shaft movement it can then add preload to the spring ( the big black box on the side of the shock) it will then via electro servos open or close the damping valves to suit. The ecu that controls all this will have pre determined maps installed so will choose a setting that corilates to the parameters programmed. As for the traction control that again works by reading info from the wheel sensors, engine,and gearbox, this is then read by the ecu which then decideds by how much to chop the power. It probably combines spark, fuelling and throttle butterfly to achieve this and if its been adapted from a car system it may also use the ABS system to brake the rear wheel. Very sophisticated and probably one of the most advanced systems out there on a bike. Still about 5 years behind cars but in fairness the car systems are now getting silly. Adaptive laser guided cruise control
so set your cruise at 100mph and let the car do the restI'll stick with my analogue 1150
Yellow Peril
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The ESA works by sensing the weight on the spring v shock shaft movement it can then add preload to the spring ( the big black box on the side of the shock) it will then via electro servos open or close the damping valves to suit. The ecu that controls all this will have pre determined maps installed so will choose a setting that corilates to the parameters programmed. As for the traction control that again works by reading info from the wheel sensors, engine,and gearbox, this is then read by the ecu which then decideds by how much to chop the power. It probably combines spark, fuelling and throttle butterfly to achieve this and if its been adapted from a car system it may also use the ABS system to brake the rear wheel. Very sophisticated and probably one of the most advanced systems out there on a bike. Still about 5 years behind cars but in fairness the car systems are now getting silly. Adaptive laser guided cruise control
I know tech moves on but BMW's stock shock was pretty crap on the original 1200's and it does concern me as to the long term ownership of the new bike with all this tech beyond the end of the warranty.
sven
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On the R1200GS MU, the spring was too soft as standard, so the preload couldn't compensate for a pillion (OK, I'm heavier than average), but the ESA option was much more stiffly sprung. I wouldn't have bought my GS without ESA as the handling would have been ruined.
Wait it until the Insurance wolves get hold of things, Non payout as "Safety Systems" had been switched off, or higher premiums for older bikes as they have less "Safety Aids".
Were Doomed!
The only thing to do is get out and Ride.
Never fear, as i'm sure that Wilbers will soon have a set of there fantastic shock upgrades available....
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