I have 2019 GSA and the brakes feel wooden, no bite unless you grab a second handful. The lever isn't soft and they are not leaking. I have mentioned this at service but BM would not test ride the bike cos i have a non standard lipo battery fitted only because the standard goes flat after a week! would pads make a difference or should i just bin'em off and fit brembo?
1250 wooden brakes
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Id kick up a right stink. Utterly pathetic that they won't look at a braking problem, because of an after market battery which plays absolutely no part in your problem. They really are a bunch of cünts sometimes ...
There is something wrong, my Hayes brakes are brilliant, much prefer the feel to the Brembos on my last bike. Speak to another dealer, how do they know what battery you have fitted anyway?
Hang on a minute. Are they refusing to ride the bike because it’s got a LIPO or are they refusing to test the brakes because it’s got a LIPO fitted. For example if you were complaining there was a strange noise from the gearbox in 3rd do you think they would they test ride it . I know it’s a subtle distinction but just wondering?
I’m on my first set of Hayes brakes having been on Brembo’s the last 16 years and I love them. They feel so positive and react very well to the slightest change in braking pressure.
Never thought I’d notice any difference but I do and I’m really impressed with the Hayes brakes
So if yours are feeling wooden somethings not right. How long since fluid change? How much have you got left on psds? Do the discs look ok. Any glazing or pitting?
Hope you get them sorted
Jon
Never thought I’d notice any difference but I do and I’m really impressed with the Hayes brakes
So if yours are feeling wooden somethings not right. How long since fluid change? How much have you got left on psds? Do the discs look ok. Any glazing or pitting?
Hope you get them sorted
Jon
I’m on my first set of Hayes brakes having been on Brembo’s the last 16 years and I love them. They feel so positive and react very well to the slightest change in braking pressure.
Never thought I’d notice any difference but I do and I’m really impressed with the Hayes brakes
So if yours are feeling wooden somethings not right. How long since fluid change? How much have you got left on psds? Do the discs look ok. Any glazing or pitting?
Hope you get them sorted
Jon
The Hayes brakes do indeed seem to provide more confidence than even the Brembos - just feel 'stronger. The only thing I'm still having a little trouble getting used to is the sharp progression right before a stop. I feel like I'm having to master the art of that showy, elegant stop at the lights all over again.
What pads are in now & what mileage? just gives an indication of whether they have likely been changed from standard?
I use SBS , they do two type for the 1250gs , one type gives more initial bite.
Lol, I have been struggling with my right foot down and the abrupt stop, thought I was doing something wrong. I am fine if I do a left foot stop, its just the last bit is a bit abrupt sometimes
The wooden feeling comes from the brake pads...On a bike 1% of the people ride off-road you don't want pads that are to aggressive.Change the pads and you are good.As for the calipers I actually like the Hayes better than the Brembos because they feel less spongy.But in the U.S. all Hayes get changed to Brembos...Back to the less hard feel...Oh well we have to live with that and can because the GS' brakes stop were short...Thanks to Telelever and the linked system 
Much better than going back to forkdive and having to use the rear brake yourself !
Much better than going back to forkdive and having to use the rear brake yourself !
The wooden feeling comes from the brake pads...On a bike 1% of the people ride off-road you don't want pads that are to aggressive.Change the pads and you are good.As for the calipers I actually like the Hayes better than the Brembos because they feel less spongy.But in the U.S. all Hayes get changed to Brembos...Back to the less hard feel...Oh well we have to live with that and can because the GS' brakes stop were short...Thanks to Telelever and the linked system
I think they make the brakes feel wooden to match the handling . Blame that telelever.
Great safety for novice riders but zero satisfaction for keen riders and those with a passion for decent suspension.
The bike has done 4k miles. They changed the fluid at last service. Bike has just come back from BMW and they gave a health check reporting pads and disks have plenty of life, i imagine the pads to be original, perhaps they have glazed, i've just ordered a set of EBC sintered so will give those a try and see if it improves. For point of reference it make my MT10 stoppers feel like moto GP brakes and that bike is notorious for bad feel.
bosnjo
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On one of my previous bikes I've had that problem and dealership couldn't find the fault. It ended up to be due contaminated front pads (don't know how it happened). So, I ordered new pads but before fitting them I had to clean both front disks with pure isopropyl alcohol. The job is not easy as beside cleaning disk surface you have to clean inside every single hole of the disk. I've done it with ear cleaning cotton buds and it was one bud per hole. One side of the bud to remove all the contamination and the other to clean the same hole again. The disk have to look shiny withou any residue of previous pads.
Then I installed new pads (OEM) and follow exact procedure to bed them down. It's explained in this video:
After all that my brakes worked better then they did when my bike was new. It's probably due to bedding procedure I followed. The pads I installed were the same model OEM pads as they were when the bike was new.
Then I installed new pads (OEM) and follow exact procedure to bed them down. It's explained in this video:
You have been drinking again .. a tool is as good as you use it , put a knob on a BSB bike he will fool up , put a good rider on and he will excell, same with telelever, it’s what you put into it . I know ......I have ohlins and wilbered up many different bikes but the Tele is by far the best , no fooling about click , turn rebound on a front end that dips and dives . Okay on the track the fools tubes work , but on the road for many no.The tele allows you to push many bikes past the comfort zone , it great to watch then fly past .
Arsey you make me laugh...You either have no clue or dark english humor. or both..
My 2014 R1200R with Telelever was way better handling and way faster to ride than my R Nine T after I spend 4 grand for a Ohlins fork and shock...It was eye opening and sad that BMW went back to the fork on the R Nine T... I guess the Hipsters care more about looks and the clueless think forks are better because Rosies Yamaha does not have Telelever...
As for the brakes because of some leaky Hayes all 1250 GS' new or new get a set of Brembo calipers up front...I don't know if this is a good thing because I liked the hard feel of the Hayes better...And for the feel of course a bike that can be ridden off road does not get the hardest biting compounds but a compromise for obvious reasons...All you need is to change the pads if you want more bite and more wear on the rotor...
My 2014 R1200R with Telelever was way better handling and way faster to ride than my R Nine T after I spend 4 grand for a Ohlins fork and shock...It was eye opening and sad that BMW went back to the fork on the R Nine T...
I guess the Hipsters care more about looks and the clueless think forks are better because Rosies Yamaha does not have Telelever...As for the brakes because of some leaky Hayes all 1250 GS' new or new get a set of Brembo calipers up front...I don't know if this is a good thing because I liked the hard feel of the Hayes better...And for the feel of course a bike that can be ridden off road does not get the hardest biting compounds but a compromise for obvious reasons...All you need is to change the pads if you want more bite and more wear on the rotor...
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