1290 Super Duke test ride

Melch

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I took out the above bike from a KTM dealer in Croydon today and thought I would give my impressions, as much as anything for my benefit to weigh up whether to buy one.

A bit of background...I've been riding about 33 years and the past probably 20 of those have been predominantly on adventure type bikes (long enough ago that the slightly nauseating term wasn't invented anyway). As a result I am somewhat bored with them and the whole slightly absurd 'scene' that surrounds them whereby a day trip to Calais is now an 'adventure ride out' yada yada (That's something easily ignored though in all fairness).

I've up until now had a bit of an aversion to technical complexities, mostly through fear I suppose. The fear being that it won't be reliable and will cost the earth once out of warranty, also that when I breakdown as a result of the fragility I won't be able to touch the thing to rectify any problems leaving me somewhat helpless in the middle of Little Smitheringtonclusterbumfuck on the Naze. I think I've gotten over this slightly and modern motorcycles do seem to be getting very reliable – except BMW obviously :augie.

My current squeeze is a Triumph Tiger 800xc which is a very good bike it has to be said but doesn't really excite if I'm honest. It also doesn't make me look back at it when I walk away. Aesthetics are very important to me, can't help it, it's just the way I'm made.

I quite fancy a KTM. I also own a 350 exc-f Six Days and have been most impressed with the build quality. The weekend before last I looped the thing and whilst I rolled back down the hill for what felt an eternity, I caught glimpses of it going up in the air, up a tree, upside down and then crunch on its handlebars etc. I expected bust bars at least. Not a mark on it. If a bike can withstand that, that's good enough for me. Another KTM it may be then.

Anyway, enough self-indulgent wittering...the bike.

First impression...blimey feels like it's going to drop in and fall over if I lean it over. That'll be the 17" front wheel then. It's been a while since I've not had a 21" front. It also felt very, very compact...not small, small would be the wrong word because it's a chunky monkey. I suppose I'm used to having a load of old guff stuck out about 2 feet in front me whereas on this the clocks are not far from your nose and then nothing. It was enough to make me feel quite exposed at first. Almost like I'd gone out without my trousers on...or something. I got over it in no time though.

It took what seemed an age to find a way out of the shithole that is Croydon and some nicer/emptier roads. First straight, quick squirt in second to get the feel...Holy mother of God...incredible stomp from no revs at all. No such thing as wrong gear on this. Pick a gear, twist the twisty thing and watch the world spin sharply on it's axis while you stay still (or any other go fast cliches you can think of.)

If it was a dog it would be a Pitbull. A Pitbull with a nice temperament that was good with children until you wound him up and then it would be time to leave the room a bit sharpish before it has your face off.

Having said that it is very well behaved (in Street mode at least). It felt really good and flickable in traffic. The amount of torque the thing has is extraordinary. It felt pretty linear to me but then I only tried the one mode. i didn't have that much time and didn't bother with other modes as I was impressed enough with this one for now and felt that returning the bike after having wheelied it through some privet would be a little bad mannered.

Another problem I've also had with more modern bikes is the turbine like, soulless feel to the engine. An engine that is only fun when you are into 3 figures and screams at you to go go go. This isn't really like that. Yes, the torque leaves you grinning like an idiot but it runs quite nicely at legal (ish) speeds. They have done a clever thing in as much as it stlll feels like a big fuck off grunty v-twin but is still smooth (or at least the right amount of smooth) with unlimited grunt.

All in all I thought it an amazing bit of kit. Do I want to shell out £15 big uns for the Special Edition one? Dunno, that's 9K more than the Tiger is worth. Is it that much more of a motorcycle? Of course not. Is it fun...fuck, yes...and that, at the end of the day is what it is all about to me. Whilst the special Edition has all the bits like exhaust, comfy seat etc. I would most likely still want to change the bars and rearsets to adjustible ones to ease my ever more creaky knees and joints. More damn money.

Sensible head (be happy with what you have, you damn fool) or immature idiot going "go on, it's only money, you only live once." Decisions, decisions. :bounce1:bounce1:bounce1
 

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My mate has just picked one up and is running it in and my impression of the thing was

It is fooking luverly

Nicely built and a thing of ugly beauty to behold

As mad as a box of frogs if you poke the loud button but seems quite docile when stroked nicely

Buy one you fool

I would if i could afford 2 bikes



only if you can live with it though
 
It's stoooooopid fast but civilised.

It handles.

It's practical enough to be practical.

Most importantly though, it just looks stunning. I'd not heard of, let alone seen, a 'special edition' but ............... well ................ it just looks fecking stunning.

If you really must be Captain Sensible, how much would you save buying the standard bike and changing just the bits you want to (I dunno, like a cheaper than Akra, Wings silencer. Different rear sets and bars - job done)? Or maybe a very low mileage 2nd hand one (must be a few of them around with the 'season' just starting?)

TBH though, I know what I'd do, feck it's only money :D

Andres
 
When you're there try the SA - same colossal torque but comfy set up with capacity for distance too.
 
That looks fantastic. Whist I've definitely got an eye on the GT, there's no doubt this one does look better.
 
True.............but not the same bike or more importantly 'vibe' what so ever.

I know which I'd prefer, no contest :)

Andres

I agree but then when I want to go touring any distance I would change my mind again :D

The SD looks awesome - my mate has one and loves it. He's 5"8 which definitely helps too.
 
Did think about the SA (briefly) but for me the adventure bikes have gotten too oversized. With my little legs it can make things awkward (a shade under 5'8")...doable but sometimes awkward. I can stick a screen and handguards on this if needed...voila, tourer (not 2 up admittedly but then my other half has lost interest in bikes in recent years anyway).

The full Akra Rick is crazy money in my view. The SE comes with an Akra silencer. You can buy a mid section to decat it from Arrow I think.

Hark at me..sounds like I'd better have a look at savings accounts etc.
 
It's stoooooopid fast but civilised.

It handles.

It's practical enough to be practical.

Most importantly though, it just looks stunning. I'd not heard of, let alone seen, a 'special edition' but ............... well ................ it just looks fecking stunning.

If you really must be Captain Sensible, how much would you save buying the standard bike and changing just the bits you want to (I dunno, like a cheaper than Akra, Wings silencer. Different rear sets and bars - job done)? Or maybe a very low mileage 2nd hand one (must be a few of them around with the 'season' just starting?)

TBH though, I know what I'd do, feck it's only money :D

Andres

Yabutt look at the SE, just look at it dammit!! :drool
 
There are some down sides to the sex on wheels looks

That single side swing arm looks the bollocks but and its quite a big but

How do you get the wheel off without removing the end can from the exhaust ?

There is only about half inch clearance between the wheel and the pipe

I would still have one though
 
How do you get the wheel off without removing the end can from the exhaust ?

Either you don't and have to remove the exhaust can or, as on a VFR, you remove the hanger bolt, loosen the clamping bolt and rotate the can outwards and downwards, thereby obtaining enough clearance to remove the wheel.
 
You have to have one

I mean A thug from Donny and a Hippy from Notts both say so and that is a very broad spectrum recommendation

There are no pockets in coffins
 
Melch,

Have you ruled out the 1290GT ?

Admittedly the 1290SE does look blingier and meaner.But the GT is bigger,has a small adjustable fairing,the same motor as the SD1290SE but with MORE torque,plus you get a better seat,slightly roomier riding position,cruise control,and heated grips as standard.Also a 5 litre bigger tank and you still get the quickshifter too.Just add the Akra,ergo heated seat and panniers and away you go.

Arrive in the Alps,or wherever,remove panniers and go play !!.Like this :

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Hopefully will have mine by July when I'm off to Dolomites,bit like in the vid ! :aidan


Edited to add......you were filmed in Croydon this morning !!! Look :

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The "ordinary" SDR in black for me please :)


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I did consider one Arsey. In fact I was keenly watching for the arrival of the GT months before they came out. I saw one at the London show and really liked it. The problem for me though is the spiralling of costs. Before you know it it would be £18K for the GT I reckon quite easily. I am but a humble chippy and money is hard earned.

Also as my other bike is very specific (dirt) this one has to tick lots of boxes including nipping about locally to see customers etc. Admittedly the SD is a bit of a crazy weapon to do that on but it is probably more suited to being an all rounder than a very specific sports tourer. This is the problem I think with motorcycles now. They are all designed with a very specific purpose in mind.
 
Do it. Just do it.:thumb

If I didn't suffer from neck/ back issues, I'd be seriously interested, but I got rid of my S1000R for that very reason.

I'm waiting for owners to take delivery of their GT's, and will be keeping an eye on the forums for the next few months.:augie;)
 


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