12v Socket Has Power But Nothing Works

iain1067

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I have on the left hand side fairing a 12v socket it has power but whatever I plug in does not work It's not a factory fit but it's baffled me completly ffs there really is nothing that can wrong with it surely???
 
Are you using a unit that has a car cig lighter plug to test?
If so you might have a Hella socket which is very similar but not the same and often will not work with a standard plug
 
Are you using a unit that has a car cig lighter plug to test?
If so you might have a Hella socket which is very similar but not the same and often will not work with a standard plug

The car type cig lighter is far bigger than the din/Hella type so won't fit in if that's what he has fitted. A photo of your socket might help !
Also, what are you plugging in, if it's actually connected via the canbus system some devices draw too much power and the canbus will shut it down.
 
it's been wired direct to the battery via a fuse holder so it is not factory, I tried plugging in a cigarette lighter to usb charger that i use in the car just to see if the led lit up and it didn't, so canbus is not affected it's 2007 bike btw
 
Size wise a normal cig lighter charger fits fine so i don't think it's din size, now not sure if it's related and this might a red herring, but i used the same wiring via the battery and fuse into a usb charger the light turned on but didn't charge my I phone the 12v socket was totally unplugged could be the chinese version i bought ages ago was shite not sure new one will tell I guess. As an aside when i test with the multi meter the 12v socket i have power going into it, it's a Swedish brand i think
 
If it was me I'd buy a capped din/Hella socket and fit that, only downside I can see is that you will have bigger hole drilled for the car size one. Then use din plugs on your gadgets you want to use in it. Unless everything you need to plug in uses a usb plug then fit one of those, all available quite cheap on eBay.
 
When you said you tested and had 12v, how were you testing?

If you used an earth point on the bike for your negative probe then tested in the centre of the socket with your positive probe and got 12v, you've only tested and verified the positive supply to the socket.

The negative (earth) to the socket may have a bad or non existant connection.

Test the actual socket if you haven't...positive to centre contact and negative to the inside of the main periphery.
 
I get 12 volts when I test with positive mulit meter probe on the side and the negative at the bottom i have a couple of pics of it but can't post pics for some reason
 
I get 12 volts when I test with positive mulit meter probe on the side and the negative at the bottom i have a couple of pics of it but can't post pics for some reason

That sounds the wrong way round to me. I'm sure the +ve supply should be at the bottom and -ve (earth) at the side. This could be why nothing works.
 
That sounds the wrong way round to me. I'm sure the +ve supply should be at the bottom and -ve (earth) at the side. This could be why nothing works.

It is the reverse of the norm.
Like I said earlier, normally the centre is positive and the outer is negative on accessory outlet sockets.
 
ok will swap the wires around then see what happens, it never worked when i got the bike yes its earthed direct off the battery, not my wiring i hasten to add just trying to chase down a problem
 
ok will swap the wires around then see what happens, it never worked when i got the bike yes its earthed direct off the battery, not my wiring i hasten to add just trying to chase down a problem

No need to swap wires to quickly check if it’s the wrong way around. Check voltage between battery negative (by putting one probe in battery negative) and the middle pin and side connection of the socket. If the middle pin is 0v and the side connection is 12v, it wired the right watch around. It the middle pin is 12 volts and the side connection is 0 volts, it’s wired the wrong way around.

It it’s wired the correct way round, and you do measure a 12v difference between the side connections and the middle pan, but nothing works when plugged in, the only thing I can think of is you have a poor connection which has very high resistance, which means the 12v is visible when there is no current draw, but when anything tries to draw current, the voltage drop is across the bad connection rather than across the road. This is very unlikely. I guess in principle it could be a mechanical issue, that when something is plugged in the connectors moved sideways and a connection is lost inside the socket.
 
This is one of those "do my shoes fit me" questions asked by the wearer that only the wearer would know. .
 
No need to swap wires to quickly check if it’s the wrong way around. Check voltage between battery negative (by putting one probe in battery negative) and the middle pin and side connection of the socket. If the middle pin is 0v and the side connection is 12v, it wired the right watch around. It the middle pin is 12 volts and the side connection is 0 volts, it’s wired the wrong way around.

It it’s wired the correct way round, and you do measure a 12v difference between the side connections and the middle pan, but nothing works when plugged in, the only thing I can think of is you have a poor connection which has very high resistance, which means the 12v is visible when there is no current draw, but when anything tries to draw current, the voltage drop is across the bad connection rather than across the road. This is very unlikely. I guess in principle it could be a mechanical issue, that when something is plugged in the connectors moved sideways and a connection is lost inside the socket.

Pretty sure that's incorrect, middle pin at the bottom should read 12v to earth or the side connector. :thumb
 
Well swapped the wires around and hey presto it now works, looks like it's always been wired up wrong duh! Thanks to all who replied. Cheers Iain
 
Good result. Glad you got it sorted.
Surprisingly the DIN socket on my GSLC was wired up incorrectly from the factory.
 


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