'17 GSA in for service so had a 1250 for the day

Morety said:
Having read this thread, I now realise that what we all really want is.....

....a 1996 RRT Fireblade. Lets see, 23 years ago, Honda made a bike that was lighter than the 1250 (by some margin), faster (by some margin...mine was dyno'd at over 125BHP at the rear wheel and since it was lighter, it was also tested at a shade over 10.4 secs for the standing 1/4....not too shabby even by modern standards) and more economical (I used to get upwards of 60mpg touring at legal speeds) and rather comfy for what it was. Best bit is it was really rather affordable....and reliable. Tongue firmly still in cheek. :P

Folk will buy what they want and can afford. We can debate until the cows come home but the 1250 isn't such a vast departure in any department in the real world, especially given that 1200 fuelling, if needed, can be sorted easily enough. Happy with mine. Feel no itch needs scratching by a 1250. Maybe in 4 or 5 years time when they've proven themselves reliable and worth the change. It's far too soon really to draw any conclusions that way presently. Love the looks of the Rallye version though.
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Ive it before and will say it again , you could be dead tomorrow .. time is short and I want more now not once nanny has said its safe....
 
fred_jb said:
Well forgive me if am sceptical about that, but I don't think we will all be driving around in full size Scalextric vehicles anytime soon, and I think it would be difficult to engineer for single track vehicles like motorcycles - tramlining anyone! In fact it will probably be downright hazardous to bikers. If it ever does take off the cost of the infrastructure will mean it will undoubtedly be limited to heavily used major roads in the vicinity of large cities. This means it will probably only ever be used to augment, not replace battery capacity and wired chargers.

There is parallel development going into wireless EV charging but this also has serious limitations. First of all you have the inverse square law which means that the intensity of the field used for wireless charging drops off with the square of the distance between the emitter in the road and the receiver in the vehicle. This limits the efficiency of the energy transfer, so unless you want brain frying levels of radiation coming out of the emitters you need a large flat receiver as close to the road surface as possible and properly aligned with the emitters in the road surface. Difficult to achieve even with cars, much more so with a narrow single track vehicle like a motorcycle which moves around in its lane, has limited space for a receiver, and due to the need to be able to lean in corners, must have quite high ground clearance.

As far as I know there are no agreed standards for either road based conductive or wireless charging, and no plans to introduce it on a commercial scale so the vast majority of EV vehicles will require a large battery capacity and a widespread roadside wired charging infrastucture. Unlike some other countries, instead of having a national plan and investment into this, we will no doubt leave it to the private sector, so it will end up like broadband provision - suppliers will cherry pick the more lucrative locations for this infrastructure, and neglect other places.
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Do some research into Metamaterials.

It's cutting edge manipulation of materials at the nano scale beyond anything we've done before.

It's truly amazing manipulation of light waves, sound waves, electromagnetic waves, etc

Creating focused electromagnetic diodes etc

Very efficient...
 
stick said:
Ive it before and will say it again , you could be dead tomorrow .. time is short and I want more now not once nanny has said its safe....
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LOL!

That's a good principle if you're awash with the cash to do it I guess and good luck to those who can. People can do what they want with their cash and I get that. What is harder to swallow are some of the comments about the new bikes having moved the whole game on, as in "night and day" (especially after feedback from a few who've ridden them and said that it isn't as night and day as some would have us believe). The old bike'll do everything the new one will and just as well but without quite as sophisticated suspension, electronic or engine management systems. I'd love a new one too but not at a 10K premium atop any part-ex necessary. That buys a whole lot of used bike or several family holidays, or a second family car even. Still won't stop me drooling at the 1250, or the newest of the triumph triples or latest Italian sculptured beast. Do I feel as if I'm missing out somehow? Nope. Happy with the 1200 :beerjug:
 
Warlord said:
Do some research into Metamaterials.

It's cutting edge manipulation of materials at the nano scale beyond anything we've done before.

It's truly amazing manipulation of light waves, sound waves, electromagnetic waves, etc

Creating focused electromagnetic diodes etc

Very efficient...
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All a bit Startrek isn't it? Beam us up Scottie, and keep a close eye on those fusion reactors that will be powering it all!
 
fred_jb said:
All a bit Startrek isn't it? Beam us up Scottie, and keep a close eye on those fusion reactors that will be powering it all!
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It is, but it's all very real and gathering pace very quickly.

The world is not going to be the same in the next 50 years. Science and Technology will make stuff that we use today completely medieval in comparison.

Imagine a road surface that was conductive and hard wearing, and tyres (No air, never puncture) which were the receivers transferring electricity directly to the motors in the hubs. A small backup battery for off-road use, and all monitored via GPS and staged checkpoints.

Imagine windows that dynamically adjust to your individual eyesight prescription and light level preferences without affecting anyone else in the vehicle. Imagine bodywork that is nano-invisible, refracting light around it so you can see straight through the bodywork like it isn't there, but nobody can see in, giving you full 360 vision. Self sealing doors and bodywork panels, completely flush and seam free. Imagine being able to change the exterior colour of your paintwork at the swish of a smartphone app, or change the texture of your carpets and interior seats on the fly.

Science Fiction is here, right now.
 
Warlord said:
It is, but it's all very real and gathering pace very quickly.

The world is not going to be the same in the next 50 years. Science and Technology will make stuff that we use today completely medieval in comparison.

Imagine a road surface that was conductive and hard wearing, and tyres (No air, never puncture) which were the receivers transferring electricity directly to the motors in the hubs. A small backup battery for off-road use, and all monitored via GPS.

Science Fiction is here, right now.
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The problem is that our organisational and economic competency to implement such advanced technologies, especially on a global basis, runs way behind our ability to create them, not to mention the vested interests that will fight this type of disruptive technology every inch of the way.
 
fred_jb said:
The problem is that our organisational and economic competency to implement such advanced technologies, especially on a global basis, runs way behind our ability to create them, not to mention the vested interests that will fight this type of disruptive technology every inch of the way.
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Not if we have to rebuild it all from scratch after a WW3

Classic step change environment.

In the meantime, no reason why road surfaces can't be replaced with new 'connected' technology.
 
Warlord said:
Not if we have to rebuild it all from scratch after a WW3
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Wow, you really are a cheerful chappie! I'm afraid that after a WW3 we would probably spend several centuries or more slowly recovering from being bombed back into the stone age. Highly technological societies need a critical mass of clever and well educated people plus the infrastructure to support a critical mass of the highly interdependent advanced industries needed to allow technological progress - unlikely that either would be available in the aftermath of the sort of destructive warfare we are now capable of.
 
fred_jb said:
Wow, you really are a cheerful chappie! I'm afraid that after a WW3 we would probably spend several centuries or more slowly recovering from being bombed back into the stone age. Highly technological societies need a critical mass of clever and well educated people plus the infrastructure to support a critical mass of the highly interdependent advanced industries needed to allow technological progress - unlikely that either would be available in the aftermath of the sort of destructive warfare we are now capable of.
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Why do you assume a WW3 will involve heavy bombing?

Cyber terrorism will have a Country eat itself inside out.
 
Warlord said:
Not if we have to rebuild it all from scratch after a WW3

Classic step change environment.

In the meantime, no reason why road surfaces can't be replaced with new 'connected' technology.
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As a chartered civil engineer, I can think of quite a few! I can't see that happening in my lifetime I'm afraid, old cynic that I am Warlord.
 
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