2009 v 2010

[Big Nick]

What with a mass of owners chopping in their lightly used bikes for the new WC version I thought now might be a good time to upgrade my 2009 to a twin cam model preferably the 30yr Anniversary model which I've always really liked.

The question is would you bother?

 

[veefour]

We're not all flocking to the WC - I've just changed my 2010 twin cam GS for a new Adventure taking advantage of the £1000 dealer contribution. I can't speak for the differences between the 2009 and the twin cam as I came from a VFR to the twin cam but I have been surprised by the different feel between the old bike and the Adventure - especially as it's basically the same bike. Feels a bit smoother and more planted and the gearing feels different . Mind you I'm still running it in.

 

[Nick dj]

Is worth it?

I was offered a good deal to change my 08 for TC. I had fitted a Akro and de catted but the TC does pull a bit better mid range.

But how much to change? My 08 had done two winters and was looking a bit rough.

I do have The 30th Aniv and lov it looks great.

There is a second hand LC on Ebay?

Hope this helps Nick

 

[Clifton]

... I thought now might be a good time to upgrade my 2009 to a twin cam model preferably the 30yr Anniversary model which I've always really liked.

The question is would you bother?

Tough call. I was perfectly happy with my 09 GS and planned to keep it a few more years to trade on a WC. A few months ago I switched to an almost new 2012 GSA only because I felt the deal was too good to pass. From an 09 GSA to 2012 GSA I think you're essentially getting the same bike other than the valve train and exhaust. I haven't done it yet on the 12 but I know setting the valves will be a little more involved. However I assume they will stay in spec longer so that's a wash. Gearing is the same. The 12 does have a vent in the FD and I do like the throatier exhaust. There is also a little less of a dip in the torque curve which is noticeable. Trading would take you back to 0 miles with new wearables like suspension, tires, brakes, and the peace of mind a warranty gives.
But if I had a nice 09 GSA I would probably keep it another year or so then trade it on the all new 2014 or 15 Adventure. By then it should be known if there are any reliability issues with the new GS.

 

[pj8332]

dohc

definately 2010

pj

 

[APE]

definately 2010

pj

Yeah I think the twin cam was a big improvement on the previous engine.

 

[MIKE R]

I had an 09SE which I really liked, but when I was given a good deal on a twin cam I jumped at the deal. I personally like the twin cam more, especially the low down torque.

Had the twin cam made up as an SE replica though!

Mike

 

[Roberto]

Keep in mind the option of a hilltop remap. Having ridden both it gives the earlier bike very much the Twin Cam feel. I spent the money on the remap, bits and bobs and WESA. A year and nearly 30k further on very pleased with that decision

 

[Big Nick]

Thanks everyone, some food for thought there

If the deal is right I think I'll go for the TC

If not mine wont depreciate that much in a year so I may wait for the new water cooled GSA

 

[Yonkyo]

I still love my 08 GSA and have no intention of trading up...
Its been a fantastic bike and perfectly reliable.
A remap has transformed the engine and Wilbers WESA has transformed the ride.

I've ridden lots of Twin Cam GSA's, and been totally unimpressed.
And i've also ridden the new WC a couple of times, which i do actually like, but not enough to trade in my GSA.

 

[Pukmeister]

I still love my 08 GSA and have no intention of trading up...

+1

 

[Wilsdorf]

Keep in mind the option of a hilltop remap. Having ridden both it gives the earlier bike very much the Twin Cam feel. I spent the money on the remap, bits and bobs and WESA. A year and nearly 30k further on very pleased with that decision

My older GS (with full Remus) is quicker than my twin cam (with hilltop remap) in in-gear acceleration - which just should be happening given the quoted figures. Note the Older GS was slower before the full Remus! So for acceleration the full system has made more difference than a remap - more expensive mind you.

In real terms, there is not enough in it. I feel the Twin Cam handles better, and the gearing suits my riding better. It is not different enough to warrant an upgrade for the sake of it and most of the time I wish I had just stuck with the older bike - but most of the time I am happy with the decision and will most likely keep my triple black for a good few years.

 

[Bendy toy]

I only recently moved into BMW ownership but the only things I dont like are probably much the same on all models. Engine-wise - being honest I still prefer a Japanese air cooled 8 valve four, they red line only a little higher than the boxer but have a wider useful power range. But other than vibration (for which I have a plan) there's not much in it. Everything else is 100% better so I wont be rushing out to change any time soon. I also have the most excellent CJ Ward powder coating / stove enamellers on my doorstep so as stuff gets frayed at the edges, they will get done as needed.

 

[Chapperz]

Dealer Contribution

We're not all flocking to the WC - I've just changed my 2010 twin cam GS for a new Adventure taking advantage of the £1000 dealer contribution. I can't speak for the differences between the 2009 and the twin cam as I came from a VFR to the twin cam but I have been surprised by the different feel between the old bike and the Adventure - especially as it's basically the same bike. Feels a bit smoother and more planted and the gearing feels different . Mind you I'm still running it in.

Hi Veefour,
Tell me more about this £1000 dealer contribution. I have a GS1200 2011 and am looking at trading up to the adventure but I haven`t heard anything about a dealer contribution. Could you tell me more please. Thanks mate.

 

[Nutty]

Hi Veefour,
Tell me more about this £1000 dealer contribution. I have a GS1200 2011 and am looking at trading up to the adventure but I haven`t heard anything about a dealer contribution. Could you tell me more please. Thanks mate.

Details should be on the BMW website.

 

[veefour]

Hi Veefour,
Tell me more about this £1000 dealer contribution. I have a GS1200 2011 and am looking at trading up to the adventure but I haven`t heard anything about a dealer contribution. Could you tell me more please. Thanks mate.

The details are on the website but it might only apply to leasing. I lease mine which I'm sure people will tell me is a bad idea but I find it a good way to have a new bike without having to have £14k laying about. My last one was also leased so when I looked at the options the lowest cost was (unsurprisingly ) leasing another and the only offer at the moment is the £1k contribution on the twin cam adventure. Fully loaded one (premium & dynamic packs plus alu panniers) was less per month than financing my three year old GS and paying for the extended warranty. Timed it reasonably well as it was due a service, rear tyre and mot that I didn't have to pay for.