2010 GSA Spark plugs Dealer rip off!

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Why do BMW change the plugs on a 2010 twin cam at 12,000 miles, but on earlier engines 24,000? :nenau

Is it to keep service prices high and to make even more cash for the dealers?

Please tell me why!

I had a 12,000 done in March and kept my old plugs, they look like new, so I'm not changing again till 36,000

Had an 18,000 done last w/end and asked the dealer why they change them at 12 and not 24? "It's in the service schedule"....but there's no need!!!!!!

Well at £44 and about £36 for labour it's a rip off and totally unnecessary in my opinion, if the plugs had worn electrodes change 'em, but NO, they were spotless.

No doubt someone will tell me why, but as far as I'm concerned it's bollox!
 
Sorry Sir you will find that plug changes were at 12,000 miles on all the oil head and hexhead boxer engines

Fuel filters were the only 24,000 mile service item that was extra and the alt belt at 30,000
 
My spark plugs have done around 70k+miles and my alt belt way over 100k now.

Depends on what you want to spend your money on really. I can find lots of things to spend mine on other than Mr Mbw's big shiney windows and showroom.

36 quid to change some plugs:eek:
 
Jaythro said:
Sorry Sir you will find that plug changes were at 12,000 miles on all the oil head and hexhead boxer engines

Fuel filters were the only 24,000 mile service item that was extra and the alt belt at 30,000
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My 08 GSA which I had serviced at dealer and part/exc at 18,000 never had plugs, my mate had a 24,000 service last w/end and had his plugs changed for the first time, so very sorry sir, I'm right ! :comfort
 
Plugs have gone up in price massively over the last 20 years, but supposedly because they last longer.

Then again at £80 a time it is a nice little earner for the stealer, assuming he don't notice there like new and charge you £80 to leave the old ones in!
 
Rasher said:
Plugs have gone up in price massively over the last 20 years, but supposedly because they last longer.

Then again at £80 a time it is a nice little earner for the stealer, assuming he don't notice there like new and charge you £80 to leave the old ones in!
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Surely they wouldnt do that :rolleyes: :D
 
Rasher said:
Plugs have gone up in price massively over the last 20 years, but supposedly because they last longer.

Then again at £80 a time it is a nice little earner for the stealer, assuming he don't notice there like new and charge you £80 to leave the old ones in!
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The one's I had changed at 12,000 don't even need cleaning, so I'm saving them and not changing the new ones till 36,000. The bike will need a 24,000 service after our next Euro trip, but I'm not using a dealer next time, too bloody expensive......:blagblah
 
EBAY mate.....

Buy your plugs off EBAY. Much cheapness!!

Hand plugs to dealer to fit if that's your want. They cannot cancel warranty for it if you supply the correct recommended plugs...

Roger.
 
The term rip off gets me. Why is it a rip off:nenau If you don't want to pay the dealer rates well don't go to the dealer. Not feckin rocket science is it?

Lets face it, if you go to harrods and have a coffee, it will cost you an arm and a leg. Is that a rip off as well?
 
G5RJO said:
Buy your plugs off EBAY. Much cheapness!!

Hand plugs to dealer to fit if that's your want. They cannot cancel warranty for it if you supply the correct recommended plugs...

Roger.
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Getting the plugs for the twin cam GS off Ebay is nigh on impossible, at the moment.
 
Sgt Bilco said:
The term rip off gets me. Why is it a rip off:nenau If you don't want to pay the dealer rates well don't go to the dealer. Not feckin rocket science is it?

Lets face it, if you go to harrods and have a coffee, it will cost you an arm and a leg. Is that a rip off as well?
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No but you "seem" to have more choice with your coffee as buyng a cup at McDonalds won't mean your £1500 out of pocket when your FD fails.

For those with a new bike or the BMW extended warranty it certainly "seems" like you have to go to the main dealer and do everything they demand, oddly they have more control on a bike on extended warranty and you must use a franchised dealer.

Not forgetting some owners do not want to do their own servicing, others would prefer to keep up the official BMW stamps (and we all know how much that BMW Ink costs)

Taking your own plugs will save a couple of quid, but I bet if you insisted they do not need changing and the bike suffers any other failure the dealer will blame it on you not changing the plugs, even if it is a leaky shock.

Anyway those who do use franchised dealers for servicing have no need for Harrods coffee, your £300 2 hour service includes a cup of the finest coffee, I am intrigued by the coffee my local dealer supplies as they are £100 more than any other BMW dealer for a service, I assume they despatch a jet to Columbia on a daily basis :nenau

Luckily no plugs for me (Earlier model) and the dealer was happy to not do the FD oil as I had done it myself earlier this year (and will do it again when I fit new tyres next week) but at £285 for a 12k service (without FD oil) I am still hoping the coffee will be up to Costa standards.
 
Sgt Bilco said:
The term rip off gets me. Why is it a rip off:nenau If you don't want to pay the dealer rates well don't go to the dealer. Not feckin rocket science is it?

Lets face it, if you go to harrods and have a coffee, it will cost you an arm and a leg. Is that a rip off as well?
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RIP OFF... "A product or service that is overpriced or of poor quality"

In this instance the product is overpriced, end of!

Your "ferkin rocket science" quote..."An endeavor requiring great intelligence or technical ability" is very apt, yes I do understand that if you go to a dealer you will pay dealer rates....

Mastermind.. answering questions on the bleeding obvious springs to mind!

My original question was, and still is, why do dealers change the plugs at 12,000 on the twin cam and not the earlier models, when there is NO NEED TO?

At least please try to answer the question! :comfort
 
They change the plugs on your bike, because you took it to them for a service, and they want to take as much money as possible off you every time you put your foot through the door. Simple really. They'll probabaly dress it up as a saftey precaution if you question it.

You wait until you need new brake pads:eek:
 
Balders1450 said:
My original question was, and still is, why do dealers change the plugs at 12,000 on the twin cam and not the earlier models, when there is NO NEED TO?

At least please try to answer the question! :comfort
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ok, i'll have a guess...

the twin cam revs somewhat higher than the previous model. it is also a joy to use these revs, unlike the previous models.
 
Ooo oooo ooo:JB

I know why they change them............................ because the service schedule says to!!!!!

It does begger the question that what the labour is for, after all, if you check and adjust the valves,surely you have already removed the plugs to facilitate this????? This being the case, the boxes must be bleeding hard to open!!:blast

Use a VATable independant, I have and all warranty work needed has been done with no hassle.:beer:
 
Is there some bullshit about?

Modern spark plugs have a life of 60,000 to 100,000km. See this link for details
http://www.ngkspark.com.au/sparkplug.php#

This is in excess of EU/USA requirements. (circa 40,000 miles)
I had to change the plugs in my 1200 when bike stated to "miss" at 20,000 miles. They will not be changed again until it starts "missing" again.
With NGK laser plantinums, this should be over 100,000km.

Myke
 
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