2018 KTM 790 Adventure

Ha ha, ok that's more than fair enough. :)

I've had a go on a bike fitted with a Rekluse and have to say it was brilliant. It did catch me out though, on a steep uphill section where I bottled it and stopped half way up. It took longer than I expected to hook up again when I pulled away again and I tumbled off as the bike rolled backwards ~ that probably says way more about me than the clutch though.........

Definitely not the Rekluse


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Definitely not the Rekluse


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You might be right there :D

Although................I was reading a discussion on them fitted to the 1190/1290R's on Advrider and opinion seemed split for the exact same reason; that they were a bit of a bugger on a heavy bike when negotiating steep, technical ascents or indeed when wanting to use engine braking on a descent; if you were going slowly it would freewheel and the only way to get it to engage the clutch would be to blip the throttle which isn't always what you want to do on 100+ bhp, 250kg bike going down hill off road.............

Andres
 
I hope you’ve informed the bods at KTM that they are wrong ? A self-opinionated dinosaur and a salesman must know more than the young brains at Europe’s most forward-thinking motorcycle producer !!

Meanwhile some info on the 690 for those that need one

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Time will tell and we thought you're the opinionated one

If only I was as COOL as you ........... I can only dream Arsey
 
When the salesman told me about it, in our local KTM dealers

I just laughed out loud and he couldn't fathom why one was needed either (and he rides enduro too)

Rekluse yes
QS ??

Standing on the pegs for any length of time would you not find easier to snick up the box taking into account Position of arm to wrist !
 
You might be right there :D

Although................I was reading a discussion on them fitted to the 1190/1290R's on Advrider and opinion seemed split for the exact same reason; that they were a bit of a bugger on a heavy bike when negotiating steep, technical ascents or indeed when wanting to use engine braking on a descent; if you were going slowly it would freewheel and the only way to get it to engage the clutch would be to blip the throttle which isn't always what you want to do on 100+ bhp, 250kg bike going down hill off road.............

Andres

I wouldn't have one to a big adv bike.

I'd happily fit one to the 790 R though.

There is some argument for clutch use though. Even when a Rekluse is fitted you're a wise man to keep two fingers over the clutch.


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For me it would make my 1290 easier to ride no fear of stalling and instant gear changes with both hands gripping the bars if it goes tits up the clutch is still there


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That’s why the ATAS DCT is such a brilliant bike !!! The 790R better be good or I won’t keep it long,especially as I have too many similar purpose bikes,with another on the way.
 
That’s why the ATAS DCT is such a brilliant bike !!! The 790R better be good or I won’t keep it long,especially as I have too many similar purpose bikes,with another on the way.

Back peddling already, you haven't even got it yet.
Relax, it will be a great bike, like all the other bikes you have bought and sold in recent years.
PS, keep the Audace.
 
Back peddling already, you haven't even got it yet.

Not back-peddling at all !!! The 790 motor is brilliant and I hear the fuelling is even better on the Adv than the Duke so I’m sure it’ll be fantastic ,and a lighter bike for off-roading than the ATAS.But I love the latter ,especially now with Hyper Pro suspension and Alpina wheels.Best adventure bike I’ve owned by a mile.
But the 790R is quite a bit more smaller and will be easier on the trails, I think !
 
KTM 790 Adventure review

I don’t get to ride a huge variety of bikes so my notes below are very much a comparison of the 790 Adventure to my current KTM 690 R Enduro.

Any bike by definition is a set of compromises, especially in the long distance comfort vs off-tarmac choices. The 690 is one of only a few bikes that you can stick 50 kgs of luggage on, ride 1000+ km, and then head off over a ploughed field or sand dunes. Whilst not particularly comfortable, it swallows long distances and motorway speeds—I’ve ridden my London-based 690 from Aberdeen to London in a day which is 880 km (550 miles). In a 20-hour period I rode my Spanish-based 690 from Marrakech to Tanger, took the ferry to Spain then rode on via Granada to our cave in the mountains which was 1100 km (690 miles).

There are lighter (i.e. better) bikes for off-tarmac adventures, but they can’t carry sufficient luggage, would be excruciatingly uncomfortable for long distance, and have a service interval measured in hours rather than 10,000km. There are better (invariably much heavier) bikes for distance travel but unless you are an off-road god they are impossible riding in loose sand—I’ve been there and done it, with a BMW 1200 GSA, and have no wish to revisit the nightmare.

When I’m in Morocco I normally ride solo, often in very remote places, sometimes in 40ºC heat with no shade. Getting a puncture in tubed tyres in those conditions is a real downer so at the moment I run the Spanish 690 with mousses, an expensive solution as the mousses cost as much as the tyres and need replacing as often. Consequently the tubeless tyres on both models of the 790 are a huge positive as far as I’m concerned.

So… getting on with the mini review… The UK has basked in unseasonably warm sunshine for the last week with record temperatures of over 20ºC (70ºC) and there’s the danger of rose-tinted glasses when riding a bike in such conditions. But no worry, I woke to cold, grey, overcast sky and the promise (duly fulfilled later) of light rain. Jason Jones at The KTM Centre in Hemel Hempstead had the 790 Adventure waiting with only 40 miles on the clock. Trade plates were fitted as the ’19’ plates are only legal from tomorrow (1 March).

To differentiate the models I would have liked to refer to the non-R version of the 790 as the 790S but ’S’ is reserved in KTM nomenclature for alloy wheeled models. So I will call it the 790B (basic).

Looking at the paper specs, the 690 has a 910 mm high seat, the 790R has 880 mm and the 790B has 830-850 mm. But this takes no account of the seat curvature and the reality is that the 790B with the seat in the low position feels almost the same height as my 690. I have a 30-inch inseam and on the 790B am only touching the ground with the balls of my feet. I suspect there will be a lot of potential 790R customers out there who will either move to the 790B or have to do some form of lowering.

The extra 50 kg of weight over the 690 wasn’t particularly noticeable when moving the bike around and it felt lovely and light on the road, very balanced. The fuel tanks look rather bulbous in photos but you don’t notice them. Much of my riding in Morocco is at ‘bumbling along’ speeds and I often get 300 km range. Similar riding with the 790 would allow a 470-km (290 mi) range which is really impressive.

The first thing that will impress everyone is the TFT instrument panel which in addition to the usual rev counter, speedo, warning lights, also shows multiple trip odometers, ambient temperature, battery charge condition, fuel range, fuel consumption, ride mode, ABS mode, traction mode, and so on. The various bike settings are controlled by a four-way handlebar switch. Thanks to the intuitive software, when it started to rain, I was able to switch the ride mode from ‘street’ to ‘rain’ without even having to slow down.

The noise from the standard silencer is quite muted. Riding the bike with ear plugs it was hardly noticeable. I have a Wings exhaust on the 690 but this was fitted primarily because the standard 690 can/CAT runs so hot it melts plastic roll bags! The 790 cat is under the engine and I would probably run the 790 with the standard exhaust.

I took the bike north on the M1 motorway seeing what it was like at high cruising speed. The airflow over the windshield was fine and I rode for some time with my visor up. The windshield is adjustable and could be lowered by maybe 25mm to ensure the helmet is in clean air. Also the much lower R windshield could be fitted.

The engine has ample power, feels more like 1000cc, pulls well from under 3000 revs in 4th, feels very happy at high revs. The fueling is spot on, no hiccups in traffic, the engine is smooth with no vibration, and a constantly clear image in the rear view mirrors (vibration-induced mirror stem failure is common on the 690).

I meant to take note of the seat comfort but forgot to, which says something quite positive about it. One major advantage of the 790 is that it can definitely take a pillion. I have ridden the 690 with my wife on the back but it’s only viable for short distances, it’s cramped and one’s gonads are rather squashed.

Having ridden north for a while, by now I was well and truly lost so I thought I would use the bike’s simple navigation facility to route me back to The KTM Centre. I had the 790R owners manual on my iPhone so I stopped to read this to check how to link my phone to the bike’s TFT screen. First of all, I had to download KTM My Ride from the Apple App Store (£7.99). I got it linked and then set up a route in the KTM app back to Jason, but couldn’t work out how to display the app on the TFT screen. I was a bit exposed sitting by the side of the road, so I skipped that and used Apple Maps on my Watch instead.

I took a twisty route back through the Chiltern hills. By now the bike and I were firm friends and I was really enjoying myself. I probably didn’t go over half throttle the whole journey but loved the way the bike reacted.

One unsung aspect I really like are the twin storage compartments either side of the bike, one holds the tool kit, the other could be used for chain lube or other needs. I didn’t think The KTM Centre would thank me for take the bike off-tarmac in the rain in what are half-half tyres (Avon Trailriders) but I did try standing on the pegs and everything felt good. Yes, it’s not as light as the 690 but then I’m often off-tarmac on the 690 with 50+ kg of luggage and the 790 sans the luggage would be about the same.

What didn’t I like? I thought the side stand foot should be bigger so it doesn’t sink into mud or sand. I never understand why they are invariably so small. I couldn’t think of anything else I didn’t like.

I would probably fit a louder horn and like the idea of fitting Barkbuster hand guards with built-in LED running lights so oncoming traffic in Morocco realises I’m not a moped.
 
thanks Tim for the first review I've seen of the bike other than the KTM promo stuff performed by legends.
 
thanks Tim for the first review I've seen of the bike other than the KTM promo stuff performed by legends.

JohnnyB will surely test it soon and dismiss it as crap just to add the correct UKGSER balance
 
I’ve found that all of the ktm gearboxes/bikes I’ve owned /ridden will happily shift up or down clutchless,(it’s actually my fave bit about the bikes,)
I don’t think I’d personally spec a QS.


Edit
Bikes owned/ridden
300exc
400exc
525exc
500exc
640adv x 3
690 enduro x3
950 adv x3
990 adv x2
950se.

Edit 2 I hasten to add ,I’ve not owned ALL of the above.

Edit 3
There are not many bikes (definitely no bmw)that will do a double clutchless downshift when things are a bit hot on the fast loose stuff.:D
 
For those that want the cheaper option the price for the 700 Tenere is out :hide

£8400 otr , seams reasonable if it rides ok

Cheaper option but the one I saw at the NEC looked a real cheap lash up. I wanted to like it but couldn’t
 
I’ve found that all of the ktm gearboxes/bikes I’ve owned /ridden will happily shift up or down clutchless,(it’s actually my fave bit about the bikes,)
I don’t think I’d personally spec a QS.


Edit
Bikes owned/ridden
300exc
400exc
525exc
500exc
640adv x 3
690 enduro x3
950 adv x3
990 adv x2
950se.

Edit 2 I hasten to add ,I’ve not owned ALL of the above.

Edit 3
There are not many bikes (definitely no bmw)that will do a double clutchless downshift when things are a bit hot on the fast loose stuff.:D
Funny thing
With my 1290sas
When I actually turn my qs off
It is impossible to do clutchless up and down shifts!!
When I first got the bike clutchless shifts were no problem (qs installed at 1000km service)

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