routesHmmm, makes you think !!!!I believe the route avoiding war zones and sanctions would be:
India
Nepal
China
Kyrgyzstan
Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan
Caspian Sea
Azerbaijan
Georgia
Turkey
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That would be quite the road trip!
Just spoken with Paul Beach the manager who i know and he's given me the SP. They were expecting mid Feb to get the first dealer batch of 6 bikes which includes the available models but, due to the attacks on the ships meaning they are now going the long way it will now be mid March before they get them. Paul has applied for the two mocked up "roadshow" bikes to come to A&D so that he can put on a Himmy 452 two day event thing where people can go and have a touchy feely experience. As i said, they are non running bikes but, they will be "live" in all the other ways ie. display and all that. He says the Hanle Black with tubeless tyres will not have gold rims due to problems with the tubeless rim anodising process. Gold rims may happen but not initially. They are taking orders with a £500 deposit so, if you are so inclined, fill ya bootsMy local dealer A& D Denbigh have posted on their Facebook page“ making room in the RE dept for the new 450” . Sounds imminent to me![]()
He's going to keep me posted so, if i get updates, so will you lot.Cheers Tony , I saw Paul 10 days ago agreeing a deal on a scoot. Hopefully Pontadera production will come by truckJust spoken with Paul Beach the manager who i know and he's given me the SP. They were expecting mid Feb to get the first dealer batch of 6 bikes which includes the available models but, due to the attacks on the ships meaning they are now going the long way it will now be mid March before they get them. Paul has applied for the two mocked up "roadshow" bikes to come to A&D so that he can put on a Himmy 452 two day event thing where people can go and have a touchy feely experience. As i said, they are non running bikes but, they will be "live" in all the other ways ie. display and all that. He says the Hanle Black with tubeless tyres will not have gold rims due to problems with the tubeless rim anodising process. Gold rims may happen but not initially. They are taking orders with a £500 deposit so, if you are so inclined, fill ya bootsHe's going to keep me posted so, if i get updates, so will you lot.
Oh ffs! I had just about convinced myself that the V Strom was the better alternative!!!!
Good point. Well made.For riding on road , I’m sure it is .

Good point. Well made.![]()
The original plan was to get the 450. It seems to have all the attractive features of the old one ( I enjoyed mine) with the main deficits removed. However, I'm reluctant to buy a Mk1 of any new bike and it may be a while before they're over here in any numbers anyway. Also, I'm unlikely to need the bike for anything but very light off roading so the Strom is the logical choice.I’ve never ridden a Himmy though
I'm a triumph fan, but I'd still fancy the Himmy over the X400. Your torque graph only convinces me more. Only issue is I suspect getting hold of an X400 will be easier than getting hold of the Himmy.For me it's likely a toss up between the Hima 450 and the Triumph Scrambler X400. A local dealer had the Scrambler in but only offered a test ride on the Speed 400 (same engine). It had less than 1000 km so the EFI was limiting the revs and mixing below 4000 rpm, making it very unpleasant to ride through local german villages/towns with 30 kmh limits - the gearing makes 1st useless for this. 2nd the revs are below 3000 and its like a buckin' bronco.
Can only hope that the Hima 450 is going to be a bit better - way better gearing and useable performance from 2000/2500 rpm as its designed for off road. The comparison charts for torque especially show the difference those 53 cc make! ... sorry tried all the available options fb, insta, flickr and none are actually useable so will add it to my profile or something and re-edit this post.
Here that seems not to be the case. The local Triumph dealer has sold out all X400 until at least June. I am no 5 on the list for a JPS Hima 450. Due to arrive in April or early May.I'm a triumph fan, but I'd still fancy the Himmy over the X400. Your torque graph only convinces me more. Only issue is I suspect getting hold of an X400 will be easier than getting hold of the Himmy.