2610 software upgrade beta 2.95 is available

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Changes made from version 2.90 to 2.95 Beta:

Improved appearance of map symbols.
Added WAAS position correction support.
Added support for manipulating VIAs within a route, including manual and automatic re-ordering.
Added ability to FIND map features which are ahead of the vehicle and near the active route.
Added support for user-provided lists of areas and roads to avoid.
Added Navigate HOME feature to the Route Menu. Also added 'FIND FIND' keypress sequence to activate this feature.
Added more options to the Custom Map Tab Setup configuration choices.
Added the ability to preview Saved Routes.
Added user-preference adjustment based on road classes.
Corrected a problem that occurred when using Other Time Zone with Auto Daylight Savings Time, and added additional time zones.
Improved map enable/disable interface by allowing maps to be grouped by product family.
Street Pilot 2650 only: Improved Interface Options Tab to include current measured odometer pulse rate, as well as current measured reverse light state.
 
This public beta includes a number of motorcycle-specific features (meaning, changes that were made arising from requests of long distance touring riders):

1) Altitude can now be displayed on custom tabs.

2) Using the new 'road preferences' control, you can configure the GPS to avoid motorways and keep you only on the minor highways (twisties). This gives you much more granular control than the "Avoid Highways" check-box. You also have the ability to determine if you want to stay off city streets when other alternatives (motorways, highways) are available.

Custom tab control is accessed by pressing MENU, TAB SETUP, MENU again, then CUSTOM SETUP.

Road preferences is accessed by pressing MENU, ROUTE, ROUTING SETUP, then the 4th tab from the left at the top, which is ROAD PREFERENCES.

Note that if you press MENU again from the ROAD PREFERENCES screen, you have two choices: Reset settings, which gives you factory defaults, and Auto Set, which sets the preferences based on your historical driving patterns. So, if you just finished a 300 mile drive on a motorway, don't press Auto Set, or the GPSR will think you like motorways.

Please note that SBAS (Satellite Based Augmentation Service) is not yet available in Europe, because the ESA is still testing the EGNOS augmentation satellites. You might see the odd indication that you are getting reception, but no ephemeris, on 37 or 39. 33 shows up as no SNR all the time, because there is a fairly long cycle time before it gets dropped from the almanac by the GPSR if the other satellites don't broadcast 33's almanac. This is a "problem" with the ESA system, not with the GPSR. The ESA has scheduled EGNOS to become operational sometime in April 2004, right now it is still in test. WAAS is the term used by the American FAA for their SBAS system, EGNOS is the term used by the ESA for the European system. Both systems adhere to the same DO-229C interface standard, and are totally interoperable. When EGNOS is put into service and the 'do not use' flags are lifted from the satellite signals, the 2650 will be ready to use them. (Just thought I'd add that before the whingers get going...)

PanEuropean
 
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Pan European,
Garmin never seem to elaborate on the updates to the firmware.
meaning the following from the web site.
Added more options to the Custom Map Tab Setup configuration choices.
But you described in detail what that means. But Reading the Garmin burp I'm convinced most people wouldn't bother to take much notice, they just want the latest update. And miss out on a really useful feature. If they (Garmin) described in more detail what the changes do, then we would all get a lot more out of our GPS's.
John:)
PS Did you look at the Magellan?
 
I have never found Garmin manuals particularly good and usually learn by trial and error especially with the updates. For me that is part of the fun of using it. There are a number of changes. But in addition I have found many smaller changes that make the device more usable. And it will just get better.

As for WAAS, its not real evident that you enable/disable it by touching the tab on the GPS Info screen. There is no dot by it.
 
2.95 Query for Pan Euro

Had a play with the new setup this morning, it seems the Road Preferences feature only applies to Fastest Route.

I can't see an option to apply to Shortest Route.

I usually opt for the shortest route in the hope that the unit will try to follow a more direct course across country thereby avoiding the Motorways.
Problem is it takes you straight through towns. If the option to apply Avoid Built up Areas could be applied to Shortest Route this would avoid the problem. Perhaps this could be looked at by Garmin??

Should Avoid Highways still be ticked? which takes priority?



cheers

Gerry H.
 
Roadrider, K2R: 2.95 is a beta, albeit a public beta. In the software industry, extensive documentation is NEVER provided for betas, because they are expected to change before final release. A newer beta will likely be out by Monday of next week, although it may not be a public release. I'm expecting a newer release (probably not public) by Tuesday at the latest. 2.95 was preceded by 2.92, which was not made public, this came out about 2 weeks ago. The non-public betas are circulated only to engineers and the beta-testers, and the beta-testers are asked to not make public comments about non-public betas.

My guess (strictly a guess) is when the final release is made (it will probably have a number like 3.0), there will either be a rather long note accompanying it, or possibly even a complete revision of the Owner's Manual. Note that the present owner's manual reflects the software status as of 2.10. Many of the rather large changes that have taken place with 2.95 were foreseen some months ago, so you can now understand that it didn't make sense to revise the Owner's Manual up to 2.90 status, then revise it again for what will probably be 3.0.

You need to know that manuals (for anything) are not written by people who are typical of the end user, they are written by technical authors. These technical authors rely on subject matter experts (SME's) to assist them in editing the content of the manual so it best meets the needs of the end user. Garmin has a number of SME's who assist - as volunteers - in the fine-tuning of the manuals so they are as useful as possible to the end users. I am one of them. I was up until after midnight last night, massaging text for the SP 26xx next manual release so it would be as useful as possible to moto-riders, who have needs and desires that are totally different from car drivers, truck drivers, etc. Heck, even we in Europe have totally different needs than motorists in America. So, hopefully specific instructions about using the road preferences tab for finding 'twisties' will be in the next manual, although it is possible that the editors might chop the text, if it is too specific to one particular audience segment.

K2R: I know what you mean about enabling and disabling SBAS - no dot. But there are a number of other features that can be controlled on that page which also have 'no dot', so to speak. For example, orientation of the sky view map (north up or track up). This is a human interface issue - in general, display pages that are expected to be used by beginners (find, menu, etc.) will have very clear interfaces (downward pointing triangles when choices are available), and display pages that address advanced features will have their controls "slightly hidden" so as to not offer potential trouble points for beginning users. The bit about turning SBAS off and on by touching it is actually a shortcut - I'm not sure if that shortcut will make it into the final release. Seems you found out about the shortcut before you found out about the "proper" way. The "proper" way of turning it on and off ("proper" in the sense of human interface guidelines only, either way works equally well) is that you press the MENU button when you are on the satellite status page, that then gives you access to the advanced features. This convention is used throughout the entire range of 26xx menu pages.

Gerry: - The road preferences will only apply if 'fastest route' is chosen. Shortest route means exactly that, shortest route. It needs to be left alone because people who require a shortest route - such as taxi drivers, and others who bill for their services - need assurance that they truly will get the shortest route, subject to only limited other restrictions they may impose (toll road or unpaved road preferences).

What is actually happening when road preferences is used is that the 'fastest route' is no longer fastest or shortest - it becomes a custom route, subject to the preferences indicated on the new tab. Those preferences take priority, then after they have been considered, the GPSR calculates the fastest and shortest route subject to those conditions. There was some discussion about making a third category (custom route) but it was decided not to do this - however, the discussion is not yet finished :D . You have to understand that the serious enthusiasts (e.g. people participating in this discussion here) are only a small percentage of users, the vast majority of purchasers need a very simple interface, no more complex than an OEM in-car navigation system. The product is intended to compete directly with factory installed, OEM in-car nav systems.

Concerning the question you raised about shortest route taking you through towns, try using road preferences with 'city streets' turned way down, and choose "fastest route" rather than "shortest route". You can adjust your motorway preferences on the top slider as you wish. This might give you the result you want.

The question you raise about "Avoid Highways" and its interaction with "road preferences" is already on the punch list for the next release. Others have noticed that as well. The issue about how to handle that is not an engineering one, it is a human interface one.

PanEuropean
 
How to submit a suggestion to Garmin?

Is there a way to offer suggestions to Garmin? I submitted one in a Tech Support email but don't know if that is a proper way to do it.
 
Re: How to submit a suggestion to Garmin?

From the Garmin site:
Technical support is not available for this beta software. However, users are encouraged to email feedback to: StreetPilot2610/[email protected].

Cheers,
Michel
 
back to basics

whats wrong with a map u lot............hey mista bedpan ever heard of IFR? leading edge of tech is great but count me out, i'll stick with the trailing edge....far safer and more satisfying!
 
Re: back to basics

robeekay67 said:
whats wrong with a map u lot............hey mista bedpan ever heard of IFR? leading edge of tech is great but count me out, i'll stick with the trailing edge....far safer and more satisfying!
........Eh............
 


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