3 or 4 cylinder GS.

[Chris Terry]

Instead of pushing the old twin engine for more power how about a 3 or 4 cylinder GS ?. There was a 3 cylinder BMW (not a GS)I'm not sure what model it was, but it did have shaft & looked fairly compact. For me the I would like a smoother engine\transmission with a flat power curve, 3 or 4 pots sound good to me. Maybe the horizontal twin has gone as far as it can................

 

[richie]

Instead of pushing the old twin engine for more power how about a 3 or 4 cylinder GS ?. There was a 3 cylinder BMW (not a GS)I'm not sure what model it was, but it did have shaft & looked fairly compact. For me the I would like a smoother engine\transmission with a flat power curve, 3 or 4 pots sound good to me. Maybe the horizontal twin has gone as far as it can................

oh dear..... Get a Tiger...

 

[Mr K]

The K series triples and fours were supposed to replace the boxer motor. Such were the protests that it is still in production.

For me the boxer engines quirks are part of it's appeal.

 

[John Armstrong]

Instead of pushing the old twin engine for more power

Need more power? Buy a sports bike and use it on a race track

 

[Chris Terry]

Need more power? Buy a sports bike and use it on a race track

Lets face it the GS is a 2 wheeled Range Rover. Nice riding position with a "go anywhere" feel. Like our 4WD friends we like the ride height, attitude & comfort but do not want to be embarrassed at the traffic lights by those "lower people" so... we must have more power.

 

[Mr K]

A V3 might be canny....

:cool

 

[Deleted member TF]

If BMW can continue to sell us boxers for the next 50 years I'm sure they will. An occasional up-grade/camshaft/evolution/next generation/whatever here and there. Why radically change a good seller? Maybe the 800's will evolve. A triple would be nice though. Remember the sound of those Laverda Jotas?
Tw@ Features a.k.a. Dave Terry are we related? are you very wealthy?

 

[Decster]

...but do not want to be embarrassed at the traffic lights by those "lower people" so... we must have more power.

embarrassed by what? Need more power to get to next lights.....oh dear

 

[Chris Terry]

embarrassed by what? Need more power to get to next lights.....oh dear

You know.. the inevitable green light drag race

 

[RickG]

Funny old world innit? Enough is fine until there's more. Consider the evolution of the touring trail bike:

Yamaha XT500> XT550> XT 600 > tenere> TDM etc.

the air head BM GS's > 1100,1150,1200 oil head GS's> hypothetical 120bhp 1250 GS

All that's happening is that in order to control the extra power and speed that we all are apparently so desperate to have, the brakes have become bigger, the tyres wider and softer and the suspension shorter and harder. At some point these are no longer trail bikes and are simply comfortable sports-touring bikes with tall bars. In other words a sensible everday motorbike like everyone would enjoy riding if they weren't so obsessed with image or brand or so easily swayed by what they read. With a sensible bike we would of course feel inadequate because sensible is slow, Honda, effeminate, average, grey and ordinary. Even though we could on such a sensible bike (like the GS) ride for many happy hour without getting back ache pretending to be Rossi or getting a nasty tattoo in order to ride a Harley we'd still rather not if it spoilt our image. Proof of this is the difference in sales between the GS and the 1200R, essentially the latter is a better street bike but we'd rather feel special on our GS's as it gives us a bigger grin and feel good factor as we know if we only had the bottle to give up our jobs we could all nip down to the Cape like Charlie and Ewan, one day eh? Maybe? Yeah right.

A 120bhp 3-4 cylinder GS 'evolution' would be nothing more than a dog slow Yamaha FZ1 Fazer that cost twice as much, so why bother?

 

[Chris Terry]

Tw@ Features a.k.a. Dave Terry are we related? are you very wealthy?

Same name, Same age, Same trade & ....Loaded

 

[Decster]

....extra power and speed that we all are apparently so desperate to have

Not me....happy with me '02 1150 ta very much

... if we only had the bottle to give up our jobs we could all nip down to the Cape like Charlie and Ewan, one day eh? Maybe? Yeah right.

The difference is they didn't give up their day jobs as they are actors and it was a continuation of their job to pretend to be roughing it RTW...

A 120bhp 3-4 cylinder GS 'evolution' would be nothing more than a dog slow Yamaha FZ1 Fazer that cost twice as much, so why bother?

Exactly Why bother......BuMW's answer would be to drive sales for those racing to next the red light

 

[Chris Terry]

Funny old world innit? Enough is fine until there's more. Consider the evolution of the touring trail bike:

Yamaha XT500> XT550> XT 600 > tenere> TDM etc.

the air head BM GS's > 1100,1150,1200 oil head GS's> hypothetical 120bhp 1250 GS

All that's happening is that in order to control the extra power and speed that we all are apparently so desperate to have, the brakes have become bigger, the tyres wider and softer and the suspension shorter and harder. At some point these are no longer trail bikes and are simply comfortable sports-touring bikes with tall bars. In other words a sensible everday motorbike like everyone would enjoy riding if they weren't so obsessed with image or brand or so easily swayed by what they read. With a sensible bike we would of course feel inadequate because sensible is slow, Honda, effeminate, average, grey and ordinary. Even though we could on such a sensible bike (like the GS) ride for many happy hour without getting back ache pretending to be Rossi or getting a nasty tattoo in order to ride a Harley we'd still rather not if it spoilt our image. Proof of this is the difference in sales between the GS and the 1200R, essentially the latter is a better street bike but we'd rather feel special on our GS's as it gives us a bigger grin and feel good factor as we know if we only had the bottle to give up our jobs we could all nip down to the Cape like Charlie and Ewan, one day eh? Maybe? Yeah right.

A 120bhp 3-4 cylinder GS 'evolution' would be nothing more than a dog slow Yamaha FZ1 Fazer that cost twice as much, so why bother?

Do you have a beard & smoke a pipe ?

 

[bumpmuncher]

Instead of pushing the old twin engine for more power how about a 3 or 4 cylinder GS ?. There was a 3 cylinder BMW (not a GS)I'm not sure what model it was, but it did have shaft & looked fairly compact. For me the I would like a smoother engine\transmission with a flat power curve, 3 or 4 pots sound good to me. Maybe the horizontal twin has gone as far as it can................

what !!!!!!!!!!! next you will be asking if they can get rid of the 3 button indicators feck off and get a rice grinder

 

[Greg Masters]

3-cylinder in-line engines are inherently not smooth - they usually have fecking great balance shafts to counter the wobble that is always found.

Greg

 

[RickG]

Do you have a beard & smoke a pipe ?

No, but I've got a healthy interest in real ale. I apologise for I am weak.

The point I was trying to make is that the bike some people seem to want is already out there made by the likes of KTM, Yamaha, Ducati, just not by BMW unless you count the overpriced HP2 lump. If brand loyalty stops them buying such a bike they are indeed quite sad.

Me, and quite a few other GS types (whatever that means) actually want if not seriously NEED a friggin big plodding trail bike that'll tour through all countries in all weather or like me, do a daily 100 mile commuter trip all year round. If they mess up the GS in persuit of a super motard weekend only peaky jet-ski of a bike I'm bu**red what I'd be able to buy instead.

By all means make a go-faster GS (though I thought that was the HP2?) but there's a big market for the original concept - a long range tourer with trail capability.

Do you use hair gel?

 

[Chris Terry]

what !!!!!!!!!!! next you will be asking if they can get rid of the 3 button indicators feck off and get a rice grinder

I have 3 other "rice grinders" in the garage.

 

[Chris Terry]

Do you use hair gel?

Only on my big fluffy beard.

 

[theop]

Lets face it the GS is a 2 wheeled Range Rover. Nice riding position with a "go anywhere" feel. Like our 4WD friends we like the ride height, attitude & comfort but do not want to be embarrassed at the traffic lights by those "lower people" so... we must have more power.

haha - GS like a Range rover! Thats exactly what they are: Theoretically very capable off road, practicaly less so and both notoriously unreliable - sh*te in fact for any serious long distance crossing without the vehicular support a small army would be proud of... (like Charlie and Ewan's "adventure")...

There are very few vehicles more unreliable than a Rangie... none probably

 

[Mr K]

haha - GS like a Range rover! Thats exactly what they are: Theoretically very capable off road, practicaly less so and both notoriously unreliable - sh*te in fact for any serious long distance crossing without the vehicular support a small army would be proud of... (like Charlie and Ewan's "adventure")...

There are very few vehicles more unreliable than a Rangie... none probably

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