800gs: off road tool, or great all rounder?

EmmettC

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I've just rejoined this site, with the same name, but a different account as my old one was totally shut down, but my old posts are still visible.

I rejoined to find out how other owners were getting on as my bike is out of warranty from yesterday and, selfishly, I wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything.

Luckily it seems all is well with my beautiful 800. I've had only a few issues, the chain and sprockets being one, which has been more than covered in other threads. the second was the plastic heat shield that bolts on behind the left foot-peg, which became brittle and cracked in the middle as I was cleaning the bike! Neither of these issues were covered by warranty in Motorrad Central East, and to be honest I wasn't happy either time, but I think the mechanics are really great, so I'll continue to go there for any major jobs, but most of the servicing will be done at home now that the warranty is up.

The third, and final issue I have is the battery, it says in the manual to disconnect it when the bike is unused for extended periods, which I did once to connect a heated waistcoat, unfortunately this resets the computer and you have to go back to your dealer to get the "Service" light switched off on the dash. I decided to leave the battery connected while the bike was off the road for a month over winter (yes a month, but I was using my TDM not a car, so I'm still a hard man), but then it died even in this short time, and I had to go and have the computer reset anyway. The official BMW line is to keep the battery charged using BMW's charger, but as I have no power in my garage, this isn't possible. This will be a long term problem for me, and I've yet to come up with a solution I'm happy with. Suggestions?

Now as I've got used to the bike, and feel very happy with it, I'm a little insulted to find some people on here suggest the 650 is a better road bike. I realise it's got a smaller front wheel, but it's also got less power. Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely that little extra top end power will be alot more useful while overtaking on road than while sliding through a muddy field, or inching your way over rocky terrain. I've owned alot of road bikes, and the 800 is (so far) my favourite, my TDM850 has a nicer power delivery, my ex FZ1 was alot faster, but apart from that the 800 is equal or better than anything I've had.

I spent a lovely 400 mile day in the highlands on a 650, and it was nice, but I personally think my 800 could run rings around it, the big front wheel on the 800 doesn't seem to be an issue with a relatively small 85bhp, and the 650 feels very flat when you come to any straight bit of road.

I think it's obviously a matter of personal taste, but I for one reckon the 800 is the best "solo-with-luggage-and-a-little-off-road-ability" road bike on the market.

Sorry about the incredibly long post.
 
I've had the 800GS since August 2008 and will characterize it as an excellent allroader ( be it tarmac or gravel/dirt ) - not a dedicated offroad motorcycle. The term "offroad" is also not so precise - as it often includes all "riding beyond paved tarmac roads".

I did 30000km on my 2008 GS and just did 2000km on my 2010 before Xmas.
The snatchy on/off throttle is not my favourite on slippery, technical dirt roads or rough tractor tracks. It's a two-wheel SUV for all kinds of roads, but too heavy for true offroad riding. Light terrain with moderate inclines & declines is OK, though.

This corresponds with the opinions of experienced jounalist and dirt rider Jimmy Lewis in the US:
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216200

About Jimmy Lewis:
http://www.jimmylewisoffroad.com/about-jimmy-lewis

However, if you're an avid dirt-roader with loads of experience and training there are loads of fun and challenges to be had on rough roads of all kinds. Personally I'd rather have a true enduro bike for real offroad riding. Here in Norway true offroading is outlawed, so that's an academic issue for me. I have to stick to more or less organized tours on mostly mountain gravel toll-roads and maybe join an enduro-club for an enduro license - then stick to licensed enduro-races and that's basically it. :beerjug:
 
Aha. Battery disconnecting leading to "Service" displayed on dash - I've had that too. Both times it happened because the battery had gone flat (hadn't been using it much, and the weather was very cold) and I'd disconnected the earth terminal to charge the battery. The second time it happened I was told by the service guy that it's recommended to leave the battery connected to the bike at all times, even if you've got the battery on an external charger.

I've just got myself a CTEK charger and "comfort" lead (remains connected to the battery and has 3 LEDs to show the state of charge) which I'll be fitting soon. I also noticed that this charger is also available with a BMW badge, so I think I might have chosen wisely. :D
 
The 800 off road!!!! whey-hey massive fun factor. Ok not so nimble on technical sections but on fire roads and gravel track the torque just keeps the bike planted. beware of letting the speed build up to much as when the bike bites back you will know. after a full days green laneing i was totaly fecked but wore a grin bigger than i had on the smaller enduro machines.
Also dont worry to much about dropping the bike as they are more robust than they look. All i will say is that it aint no enduro machine but great on the road, fun off road and fantastic on the juice. just get out there and use them:bounce1
Also fun in the snow
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The third, and final issue I have is the battery...I have no power in my garage, this isn't possible. This will be a long term problem for me, and I've yet to come up with a solution I'm happy with. Suggestions?

Solar power. Maplin do a charger you plug in to the cigarette socket, so you'd have to adapt it - fit a direct line in as the BMW socket switches off after a few minutes.

Sling the panel on the roof and your battery will stay in tip top shape, even in winter.:thumb
 
I've just rejoined this site, with the same name, but a different account as my old one was totally shut down, but my old posts are still visible.

I rejoined to find out how other owners were getting on as my bike is out of warranty from yesterday and, selfishly, I wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything.

Luckily it seems all is well with my beautiful 800. I've had only a few issues, the chain and sprockets being one, which has been more than covered in other threads. the second was the plastic heat shield that bolts on behind the left foot-peg, which became brittle and cracked in the middle as I was cleaning the bike! Neither of these issues were covered by warranty in Motorrad Central East, and to be honest I wasn't happy either time, but I think the mechanics are really great, so I'll continue to go there for any major jobs, but most of the servicing will be done at home now that the warranty is up.

The third, and final issue I have is the battery, it says in the manual to disconnect it when the bike is unused for extended periods, which I did once to connect a heated waistcoat, unfortunately this resets the computer and you have to go back to your dealer to get the "Service" light switched off on the dash. I decided to leave the battery connected while the bike was off the road for a month over winter (yes a month, but I was using my TDM not a car, so I'm still a hard man), but then it died even in this short time, and I had to go and have the computer reset anyway. The official BMW line is to keep the battery charged using BMW's charger, but as I have no power in my garage, this isn't possible. This will be a long term problem for me, and I've yet to come up with a solution I'm happy with. Suggestions?

Now as I've got used to the bike, and feel very happy with it, I'm a little insulted to find some people on here suggest the 650 is a better road bike. I realise it's got a smaller front wheel, but it's also got less power. Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely that little extra top end power will be alot more useful while overtaking on road than while sliding through a muddy field, or inching your way over rocky terrain. I've owned alot of road bikes, and the 800 is (so far) my favourite, my TDM850 has a nicer power delivery, my ex FZ1 was alot faster, but apart from that the 800 is equal or better than anything I've had.

I spent a lovely 400 mile day in the highlands on a 650, and it was nice, but I personally think my 800 could run rings around it, the big front wheel on the 800 doesn't seem to be an issue with a relatively small 85bhp, and the 650 feels very flat when you come to any straight bit of road.

I think it's obviously a matter of personal taste, but I for one reckon the 800 is the best "solo-with-luggage-and-a-little-off-road-ability" road bike on the market.

Sorry about the incredibly long post.

Yes its nice to have an all rounder, my 800 here camping in scotland solo over 3 days 1,500 miles. :thumb2


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and Malcolm Liick in the mud he had to remove the front musgaurd as it was so sticky :thumb2


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so refreshing actualy working your bike other than laying it carefully down by a muddy puddle and the bikes gleaming .

still what ever makes people happy its there ride :thumb2


nice to see a dual sport bike being used :blast



Dean :aidan
 


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