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Residuals
A daft scooter question from an arthritic rider
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Ha, not here. A 2025 ADV 350 2ND hand goes for about €5K. Strangely they are the same numbers new in €s here as they are in £s there. That's a loss of €3,700! In a year!
The same Zontes with about 6k miles on it is €4,100. and in 2025 it cost €5,200.
Go figure!
Which actually makes them a very good second hand buy.
Honesty Disclaimer: the Hondas don't all have ALL the packs which is what would make it full price, but most have two (of four). Still a fair chunk of depreciation.
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Can you get it on PCP and just hand it back after 2/3 years?
There are a few YouTubes comparing the Zontes with the ADV.
The point is, if the blogger gets the Chinese bike from the manufacturer to test, then they are bound to give a favourable review. They are also quite often paid and have to submit their content before release for approval.
If the bike is borrowed from a dealer or owned by someone, you are more likely to get an unbiased review.
I'm not in the "all Chinese bikes and cars are shit", but just be aware of what bloggers have to agree to do, to promote the product.
yes, but the APR is 9.9% via the Zontes scheme, Honda is 5.9%
Cynical, but probably not far from the truth.
In my case, I am trading in a RE Interceptor in Mark II colours which looks great - I get a lot of crossing pedestrians telling me how great it looks and giving me a thumbs up - but it is actually a piece of shite on the road and does not inspire ANY confidence at all. I only use it to go into town and that's what I need a scooter for. I don't want a 125 because I may go a little further afield (not much) occasionally and I need it to hold its own on the dual carriageway. If the missus is on the back, I need it to go faster than a 50cc. So spending €3,700 more just doesn't make sense. I also won't be doing more than 4k kms/year.
However, this thread has served to make me realise that a 2nd hand Honda ADV 350 is a very good buy and so I might review my options.
Sounds like it's all pluses for me then moving from a RE 411 Himalayan, the scooters will have more power, longer or same service intervals and much the same MPG 
... residuals... pah... try a Himalayan, though I suppose from 5k to 1.5k over 5 years is acceptable, a grand a year to own, not so sure, but it is lovely to ride, just arthritis being a pain!
... residuals... pah... try a Himalayan, though I suppose from 5k to 1.5k over 5 years is acceptable, a grand a year to own, not so sure, but it is lovely to ride, just arthritis being a pain!
I'm that old, as some of you may be, I recall the rear engined skoda 120, 110 etc, before the estelle marque. Floppy plastic indicator stalk on the steering column and other poor shite, a joke at the time.
Look at them now, and the last 15 years.
Chinese stuff will develop even more than they have now.
I just worry about someone sitting in an office somewhere tracking all my movements, (and conversations if I was in a Chinese car).
Look at them now, and the last 15 years.
Chinese stuff will develop even more than they have now.
I just worry about someone sitting in an office somewhere tracking all my movements, (and conversations if I was in a Chinese car).
True!
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I purchased my ADV350 outright having p/xd a G310GS therefore I have no knowledge of PCP or finance options
On most automatic scooters, the left handlebar still has a lever, but it operates the rear brake rather than a clutch. The right-hand lever operates the front brake, just like on a conventional motorcycle.
Some models also have combined or linked braking systems (CBS), where applying one brake distributes braking force to both wheels. ABS is available on many mid-range scooters too, depending on the model.
If you're moving away from the Himalayan because of wrist arthritis, I'd definitely recommend trying a few scooters before deciding. The lighter controls, step-through design and lack of a clutch could make a big difference.
Some models also have combined or linked braking systems (CBS), where applying one brake distributes braking force to both wheels. ABS is available on many mid-range scooters too, depending on the model.
If you're moving away from the Himalayan because of wrist arthritis, I'd definitely recommend trying a few scooters before deciding. The lighter controls, step-through design and lack of a clutch could make a big difference.
There could be another option if you're not totally sold on a scooter. Yamaha's MT07 is available with the Y-Amt gearbox. No lever on the left bar, option for fully auto or toggle buttons on the left cluster for manual use. Weighs about 180kg so way less than a maxi scoot, 70mpg and sounds more like a motorcycle should, rather than the constant drone of a CVT gearbox. I had one, it was /is a fantastic budget bike, but it encouraged me to really press on as a). it's so capable and b). I have very little self control. I'd happily have another, but need to force myself to slow down so am looking for a 300 - 400cc scooter unless there's any low capacity auto clutched bikes?
