A Hilltop retune - my thoughts on what I got

paul08

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I have an April 2013 R1200GS LC. A great bike, which I have really enjoyed riding, and at the end of March'15 I took it to the (in)famous Geoff at Hilltop. Why,especially as I have already said that I think it is a fantastic bike?

Certainly because I wanted/needed more power. Circa 100hp at the back wheel is certainly enough for most,excuding the "power,more power!!" brigade. That 100hp allows me to run two up, with panniers at 170/175 km/hr (that equates to 105/110 mph in Imperial units) here in Germany, and I have never been disappointed with the acceleration.

But what I was disappointed with was the low speed running around town. Find yourself it too high a gear, at too low a speed, and the engine/drivetrain chunters away until you drop a gear. Certainly not smooth progress and, as I have to have a run into Cologne main station on many Sundays to buy my dose of the Sunday Times, it nagged. So that is why I took myself to Hilltop when I had the opportunity.

The initial dyno run certainly made interesting viewing/ready. max power at the back wheel was 97 bhp at 7648rpm and max torque was 73 ftlb at 5900 rpm - nothing to complain about there. But looking at the lower reaches of the power and torque curves highlighted why I was standing there watching my bike on Geoff's dyno: below 4000 rpm the curves looked like the back of a particularly nasty crocodile and were clearly the cause of the uneven running that I hoped to improve on or correct. To be honest, I am amazed that a bike manufacturer could release a bike with such power delivery.

Anyway, Geoff's computer software sets to and analyses the dyno run and some 20 minutes later it has produced a map to improve things. I ended up with lovely smooth power and torque curves (and, btw, a max power of 114bhp at 7470 rpm and max torque of 90 ftlb at 6120 rpm).

So, all seemed well and I had a ride through the Peak District up to Manchester to test it out. Fantastic. None of that snatching and chuntering at lowers/high gear. A lovely smooth delivery of power and torque.

Am I happy? You bet. Was it worth it? You bet. Would I recommend it to others? Absolutely.
 

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That old torque line at the beginning just doesn't look right. Never seen such peaks and troughs in quick succession.
 
Brazen question....Basic remap; How much? Being a Geordie, but living in North Yorkshire and marrying into a Yorkshire family, some of the Yorkshire traits have rubbed off on me...
 
That first torque curve looks very suspicious, doesn't look like a normal LC torque.
 
What is normal?
It would seem to be the norm for a GS LC to have appalling fuelling below 4500. They all have a look of something over correcting itself .
 
It feels like it changes the amount of twist to make it go ratio thereby softening or sharpening the response.
In rain and enduro modes it caps the power as well.
 
£350 left my bank account!

Have been wondering about taking my GSA (oilhead) to Hilltop to address the same low speed/throttle snatch distress.

Dare I ask what you have told or will tell your insurers and, if you have spoken to them, what their reply was?

Cheers

Richard
 
I have told them nothing. I treat it as no more than "correcting of an issue"
 
Do the riding modes alter the map or just the throttle response?

Geoff puts one map in your bike the same map is used in all modes, the modes do not have any effect on the mapping at all, the modes, change throttle response and asc .
 
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Dare I ask what you have told or will tell your insurers and, if you have spoken to them, what their reply was?

Cheers

Richard

99.9% will not tell there insurance even if they say they do on this forum, I doubt they really do, and neither will Geoff ever disclose your details.
 


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