Kremmen
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You know that already...I PM you..
ACF 50
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You know that already...I PM you..
...... like it had just been rolled in the foundry.
Rolling = rolling mill
Casting = foundry
Kremmen
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Fcuk were all picky tonight .... wrong time of the month is it..
Not received, I'm afraid.
My last PM's were from Tom (Indecisive) probably with a question about something or other* and Toad about, well it's secret.
* I tell a lie. It was about a jacket he was wearing. It was not Tom's jacket, it was his brother's. I have no idea why he sent me the picture but, as Tom is a complex character, I really do not mind.
Slick
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Sorry guys, but have just read this and I can't help respond to some of those comments.
As far as ACF50 goes, it's not a 'magic bullet' to totally eliminate corrosion and we say that on the site. But a 60-70% reduction in corrosion problems is pretty impressive when you consider what a bike goes though in a year, and a little self maintenance and top up on the exposed areas can improve on that to help keep a bike looking and performing tip top.
Regards our treatment process. It's a little more than a wash and polish. Our guys are all bikers themselves and have to attend several venues with us for practical hands on with the process and to allow us to judge that they're competent enough to move to the next stage. That's followed by three/four days intensive one to one training. Even after all that it takes treating several bikes before they can build the speed and technique up to standard we look for. But, once they're ready they can make your bike look like you didn't think possible; complete with ACF50 protection. This is an indication of what we do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9vQYaynqtg
I'm not trying to plug our service, we don't do super sales pitches and marketing hype, the majority of our business comes from word of mouth and reputation. It's there if you want it, but if you want to tackle your bike yourself then great, get in touch if you need info and I'll try and answer any questions you have and help if possible. I just wanted to clear up some of these issues about what we do and more importantly how ACF50 is used.
Nope, we don't 'blast' anything. We use a range of chemical cleaners developed for us to deep clean any residual road dirt, corrosive material and road salt off the bike. Thats followed by a foam cleaner to strip off any old wax or protective coatings. We use a pressure washer in a proper controlled way to ensure the bike is thoroughly rinsed. After this we should be down to clean metal ready for the ACF50 application to 'polar bond' properly.
We use a £200 professional bike dryer, so it's a pretty good fashion.
ricdunn answered that one, he's read the bottle.
Why on earth would you want to wash off again in spring? It's a twelve month protective coating. You seem to have the mistaken idea that corrosion only happens in winter and magically disappears come spring. Winter conditions accelerate it, but believe me, corrosion is an all year problem.
'Atomising' the ACF50 delivers it deep into the bike, so no need to strip it down. It also helps to apply the correct thickness of coating to those areas. This system was developed by the manufacturers, Lear Chemicals (incidentally they're Canadian which is why some of the labeling is in French). Most people apply 100 - 200 TIMES more ACF50 than is necessary, it's an 'active' chemical coating as indicated by the fact that it has a two year shelf life, after which you should bin it. It's effective at a coating thickness of 2/1,000 inch, much thicker than that and it'll just congeal and trap any road dirt or salt thrown up on it while riding.
Actually in the late '70s the US Navy put a tender out for companies to come up with a solution to the corrosion problems they were having with jets. Lear Chemicals with ACF50 was one of several who responded. After the first years trials ACF50 was reported as reducing corrosion related problems by over 60% and was adopted, along with the delivery system. Since then the product has undergone more R&D and is even more effective now.
As far as ACF50 goes, it's not a 'magic bullet' to totally eliminate corrosion and we say that on the site. But a 60-70% reduction in corrosion problems is pretty impressive when you consider what a bike goes though in a year, and a little self maintenance and top up on the exposed areas can improve on that to help keep a bike looking and performing tip top.
Regards our treatment process. It's a little more than a wash and polish. Our guys are all bikers themselves and have to attend several venues with us for practical hands on with the process and to allow us to judge that they're competent enough to move to the next stage. That's followed by three/four days intensive one to one training. Even after all that it takes treating several bikes before they can build the speed and technique up to standard we look for. But, once they're ready they can make your bike look like you didn't think possible; complete with ACF50 protection. This is an indication of what we do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9vQYaynqtg
I'm not trying to plug our service, we don't do super sales pitches and marketing hype, the majority of our business comes from word of mouth and reputation. It's there if you want it, but if you want to tackle your bike yourself then great, get in touch if you need info and I'll try and answer any questions you have and help if possible. I just wanted to clear up some of these issues about what we do and more importantly how ACF50 is used.
shinobi
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Good responce
mr badger
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Thanks Slick
Just a note: I appreciate that you're not actively plugging but maybe it might be a good indicator if you subscribed to the forum. There's a mint to be made on here if you go about it the right way I'm sure.
Just a note: I appreciate that you're not actively plugging but maybe it might be a good indicator if you subscribed to the forum. There's a mint to be made on here if you go about it the right way I'm sure.
I'm just down the road in Aycliffe, do UKGSer's get a staff discount?
Wouldn't mind getting in touch but can't PM you as your not a subscriber.
Slick
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Job done Mr Badger, I'll not use the forum for marketing our service though, I don't believe that's what forums are for, but, as a biker myself I'll happily pass on some of the knowledge we've gained 'on the job' if it helps anyone out.
I do that, and post a few articles where I can, on about 18 other forums so I can't always get on to respond as much as I'd like (have a look at the time stamp on that last post), so if anyones looking for a quicker reply it's prob easier to email me direct on [email protected]
Claw, your just 'up' the road from us we're based in Aycliffe
if you want to get in touch prob easier to email me as above.
I do that, and post a few articles where I can, on about 18 other forums so I can't always get on to respond as much as I'd like (have a look at the time stamp on that last post), so if anyones looking for a quicker reply it's prob easier to email me direct on [email protected]
Claw, your just 'up' the road from us we're based in Aycliffe
if you want to get in touch prob easier to email me as above.bose
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all year round???
So how many tossers leave all that salt,road crap dust,mud and anything else thatll stick to it in 12 months on then or do you wash it all off come spring???
So how many tossers leave all that salt,road crap dust,mud and anything else thatll stick to it in 12 months on then or do you wash it all off come spring???
I was really impressed with the time and attention spent on preparing and treating my bike. As a professional valet it would be pretty much worth the money, and with the ACF treatment it is very good value. 
robb
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My bike was treated in August and as someone previously said the quality of the cleaning alone was worth the money. It was like new when they handed it back. 
Slick
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We have guys who come back after 12 months and have done nothing to their bikes during that time other than a quick rinse down once in a while. Once the craps washed off bike still comes up looking good.
It's not however something we recommend, too many 'variables' we may not know about (mileage ridden, garaged, conditions ridden in, etc.?)
As I said, ACF50 reduces corrosion and corrosion related damage by at least 60%, not 100%. If I could find a product that could do that I'd be rich by now
Our recommendation is after treatment you rinse the bike down regularly (ordinary garden hose will do the job nicely) to prevent road dirt etc. building up on it. Water alone does very little to shift ACF50, and as the stuffs a water displacement and repellent there's no need to go to town on drying the bike after. Rinse it, put it to bed, go and get a cuppa.To keep it looking cosmetically good, give it a shampoo once in a while and top up the wax coating on the paintwork. As the ACF50 on the exposed areas degrades (usually after 2-3 months of regular riding and washing), use a microfibre cloth dampened with ACF50 to quick wipe over those areas,your looking to put a smear coating on, literally takes a couple of minutes, and your protected and ready to go for the next couple of months. In the unexposed areas tucked away where you can't reach, that includes the electrics and electronics, the coating is not subject to the same exposure wear and will last the 12 months.
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