Advice required. DIN output socket.

[commandoallan]

Afternoon,

I have just purchased an Airman "Tour" inflator. I plugged in to the DIN socket 1st time and it ran for a less than a second then stopped. I then reset the ignition and tried again,the same thing happens all the time.

I plugged it into the missus car and it runs fine.

I then tested for voltage at the DIN socket after the pump cuts out (1 second) and the voltage is 0 V. After cycling the ignition the voltage returns but cuts out after plugging in the pump again.

I have tried the above with both engine off & running.

Is there some sort of overload protection on the DIN socket?

How can I over ride this? And is this a good idea (only minimal load).

Cheers All, Al.

 

[Norfolk Tiger]

The canbus shuts down the socket if it detects a load of more than 5 amps. Best solution is to wire in a socket via a fuse on to the battery.

 

[JJH]

The socket does not supply enough power to run your pump. I've never heard of an override. Most people fit an extra socket wired to battery trough a fuze. JJH

 

[AberdeenAngus]

The canbus shuts down the socket if it detects a load of more than 5 amps. Best solution is to wire in a socket via a fuse on to the battery.

This.

Also means you can use it to charge your battery using a bog standard charger.

 

[commandoallan]

Thanks.

I have a permanently fixed lead for an optimate charger- rectangular socket. Any ideas if I can get a plug only to suit??? I can then rewire and save another connection to the battery.

 

[Hoff]

I purchased a fused socket from NN and wired it straight to the battery, my Airman runs fine from the socket.
About 30 mins work in all.

 

[JJH]

Thanks.

I have a permanently fixed lead for an optimate charger- rectangular socket. Any ideas if I can get a plug only to suit??? I can then rewire and save another connection to the battery.

Yes you can get an extra socket. JJH

 

[milleplod]

I got one of these to use with my Airman, fits nicely into the pump's little bag.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Car-Portable-12V-Cigarette-Lighter-Power-Socket-Plug-Adapter-Crocodile-Clips-/152571696266?epid=936653896&hash=item2385fb548a:g:5S4AAOSw1WJZMqZw

Pete

 

[DC]

I got one of these to use with my Airman, fits nicely into the pump's little bag.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Car-Portable-12V-Cigarette-Lighter-Power-Socket-Plug-Adapter-Crocodile-Clips-/152571696266?epid=936653896&hash=item2385fb548a:g:5S4AAOSw1WJZMqZw

Pete

must be hard work connecting to the battery with these ? would it not be simpler to just attach some leads direct to the battery, then tuck the adapter away out of sight ?

 

[Bendy toy]

I like the Neutrix Speakon connectors. They are not standard fit on bikes but they are waterproof and can't shake loose.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...Xspeakon.TRS0&_nkw=speakon+connector&_sacat=0

 

[philbuck]

They are not standard fit on bikes but they are waterproof and can't shake loose.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...Xspeakon.TRS0&_nkw=speakon+connector&_sacat=0

Having used these connectors for a lifetime within dozens of bands, they sure won't wriggle loose, but there's no way they're waterproof, plus they're not exactly compact, whether 2 or 4 pole!!

 

[RoyF]

You can buy the Optimate pins and plastic connector housings on E-bay, cut the DIN plug off and save it for something else later, and make your own connector to fit straight to your charger fly lead. Or if you don't want to faff around making up and soldering the appropriate plug, buy an Optimate extension lead for a few £'s, cut to length and connect the cut ends inside the pump replacing the original cable for a professional looking job...... just make sure you cut the right end off though

 

[milleplod]

must be hard work connecting to the battery with these ? would it not be simpler to just attach some leads direct to the battery, then tuck the adapter away out of sight ?

I've only ever done a 'trial run' with the Airman and this adapter, but its hardly hard work! Seat off....croc clips on....pump plugged in....and, inflate! It adds all of 30 seconds to the job. P'raps some models have batteries that are hard to get to...?

Pete

 

[commandoallan]

You can buy the Optimate pins and plastic connector housings on E-bay, cut the DIN plug off and save it for something else later, and make your own connector to fit straight to your charger fly lead. Or if you don't want to faff around making up and soldering the appropriate plug, buy an Optimate extension lead for a few £'s, cut to length and connect the cut ends inside the pump replacing the original cable for a professional looking job...... just make sure you cut the right end off though

Yes I was thinking the same. If I get an Optimate extension lead I can cut to length and join the plug end to the compressor with the socket end to the old DIN plug giving me a working compressor via my existing Optimate charging lead connected directly to my battery and a spare extension lead which has a DIN plug at one end & an Optimate socket at the other (although useless currently).

Anyone got any ideas what I can use the above for????

 

[RoyF]

You could always get an Optimate USB Charger (Optimate O-101 or O-100), plug your DIN into your DIN on board socket, Optimate USB charger into the other end then put the USB charger in tankbag, pocket etc to charge phone or other stuff whilst on the move if you needed to...

 

[milleplod]

Considering the OP was about powering an Airman pump - which presumably will be fairly rare occurrence - all this talk about cables, connectors, wires and adapters seems like hell of a lot of faffing about! My croc clip solution costs next to nowt and its ideal for 'one off' scenarios.

Pete

 

[redcap0006]

For something which may never be used, yes to croc clips

Considering the OP was about powering an Airman pump - which presumably will be fairly rare occurrence - all this talk about cables, connectors, wires and adapters seems like hell of a lot of faffing about! My croc clip solution costs next to nowt and its ideal for 'one off' scenarios.

Pete

 

[commandoallan]

Considering the OP was about powering an Airman pump - which presumably will be fairly rare occurrence - all this talk about cables, connectors, wires and adapters seems like hell of a lot of faffing about! My croc clip solution costs next to nowt and its ideal for 'one off' scenarios.

Pete

Spot on Pete. 1.75 GBP well spent and a lot of trouble saved for powering the pump on the odd occasion.

I have two permanent output connections direct from my battery which are a dual usb & also an Optimate charging lead, I also have the sat nav connected.

I suppose that will do for most of the predicaments I will find myself in.

Many thanks All, Al.

 

[Bendy toy]

Having used these connectors for a lifetime within dozens of bands, they sure won't wriggle loose, but there's no way they're waterproof, plus they're not exactly compact, whether 2 or 4 pole!!

My bad, I though they were waterproof.

I have the usual BMW socket under the seat but only used it when I borrowed a heated jacket. The plug dropped out within 10 miles so I had to wire the jacket direct to the battery. Good job I had a 10mm spanner in the tool roll.

Edit -
Neutrik website says Powercon (black & yellow) 16A mains models are IP65 ingress standard. But I can't find any dimensions so who knows how large they are.