All bikes banned in Natural Park of the High Pyrenees

[Snowy]

If this is correct, all bikes are banned due to noise levels, even quiet ones. Not noisy cars though, they're ok! If I've got my bearings right, this includes the Smugglers Path out of Andorra and miles and miles of roads and trails...

https://www.rideapart.com/news/659272/high-pyrenees-park-bans-motorcycles/.

 

[er-minio]

Would be good if they provided any actual references.
The only other (current) thing I can find is: https://www.msn.com/en-in/travel/ne...he-high-pyrenees-bans-motorcycles/ar-AA198OGc


There is similar stuff in Italy. They threaten it every year, every year the same story, then nothing happens (how very Italian ).

 

[Wapping]

Motorcyclists have been their own worse enemy. Noise, for noise’s sake, eventually pisses enough people off and a blanket ban comes in. The ’I don’t give a monkey’s what people think, as I have a right to make a bloody racket and behave as I like, when and if I feel like it’ brigade has fecked themselves.

It’s already enforced in parts of the Alps and will be arriving elsewhere. That is for certain.

 

[er-minio]

Strong agree.

 

[2 wheel humvee]

Motorcyclists have been their own worse enemy. Noise, for noise’s sake, eventually pisses enough people off and a blanket ban comes in. The ’I don’t give a monkey’s what people think, as I have a right to make a bloody racket and behave as I like, when and if I feel like it’ brigade has fecked themselves.

It’s already enforced in parts of the Alps and will be arriving elsewhere. That is for certain.

Don't forget the "loud pipes save lives" brigade

Several years ago a group of us were in the Alps and stopped for lunch at a cafe in a village at the top of a pass (forget where) the cafe had a balcony/terrace with great views into the valley below through which the road we had just passed, it was a glorious sight the road snaking across the valley floor with seemingly endless switchbacks and hairpins, we could hear every group of bikes and fast cars as their gearshifts created pops and bangs that reverberated around the valley, we had a chat about what it must be like to be a local and to have to put up with that racket from Spring to late Autumn every year
A blanket ban seems harsh, a ban on noisy bikes but not noisy cars even more so, but the writing was on the wall years ago.

 

[Wapping]

The banning of bikes and quads is good news, as the riders will be able to play their, “I’m a victim and being discriminated against. I have rights, you know” card. This trumps everything else in the pack.

 

[er-minio]

Don't forget the "loud pipes save lives" brigade

I haven't always had super silent bikes, I have to admit.
But generally, and I said this multiple times, you want to be fairly quick and relatively silent. Especially when climbing up the mountains.

 

[2 wheel humvee]

I haven't always had super silent bikes, I have to admit. Me too.
But generally, and I said this multiple times, you want to be fairly quick and relatively silent. Especially when climbing up the mountains.

Agreed

 

[Wapping]

I haven't always had super silent bikes, I have to admit. #Me too
But generally, and I said this multiple times, you want to be fairly quick and relatively silent. Especially when climbing up the mountains.

But, eventually everyone grows up.

Unfortunately, only when it’s all too late.

 

[MarkShelley]

The two times the wife and I toured there we planned routes on the really tiny roads and hardly saw any vehicles at all on some days. Plenty of livestock though. Heaven!

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Motorcyclists have been their own worse enemy. Noise, for noise’s sake, eventually pisses enough people off and a blanket ban comes in. The ’I don’t give a monkey’s what people think, as I have a right to make a bloody racket and behave as I like, when and if I feel like it’ brigade has fecked themselves.

It’s already enforced in parts of the Alps and will be arriving elsewhere. That is for certain.

You mean, you’re sat on Passo Sella imbibing a coffee and a quartet of open piped Harleys comes up, pisses you off

 

[Wapping]

You mean, you’re sat on Passo Sella imbibing a coffee and a quartet of open piped Harleys comes up, pisses you off

I can be walking along the Highway, E1 when matey on his ‘Loud pipes save lives’ decides to emulate a Moto GP on anything from a shonky Chinese thing, to an R1 or an Adventure - with a capital A - bike (you can tell by the panniers and the blazing lights) and then proceeds to ride around the wrong side of the pelican crossing, ‘cos they have rights, mate. Wankers.

The funniest thing was when a cnut on a CB600, aped a couple of bikes in front who did it, following them blindly in the rush hour….. straight into the front of a car.

 

[er-minio]

I wouldn't mind the noise if they could fucking ride.
Generally, the equation is inverted. The crappier they are, the louder the bike.

Motorbikes are not a replacement for a lack of personality.

 

[Snaf]

This did come up last year but there's very little further info.
https://www.advrider.com/track-road-closures-hit-the-spanish-pyrenees/

 

[peepingtom]

not good news but if im getting it right the effected area is only about a third of the size of the Lake District

 

[er-minio]

This did come up last year but there's very little further info.
https://www.advrider.com/track-road-closures-hit-the-spanish-pyrenees/

Probably they never followed up.
As said, this is a common occurrence in the Dolomites area as well in Italy. Nothing ever happens.


On a side note, talking of densely ridden areas, part of the black forest (town areas mostly) are forbidden to motorbikes on certain timeframes.

 

[Zx9man]

Let’s see how long this will be in place when the tourism starts dropping away

 

[wessie]

not good news but if im getting it right the effected area is only about a third of the size of the Lake District

Yes, small, very rural areas few on here would ever explore. I posted this reply to a post on Facebook from a doomsayer

not so - just look at Google maps - there are only a few areas designated as Natural Parks. Do not confuse a Natural Park with a National Park, they do not have the same legal definition. Here is one https://goo.gl/maps/inCzHa55xFnNFbNf7 - now, how many people here will be riding their touring motorcycle in that terrain?

 

[Zx9man]

Well all I can say is I have and enjoyed every minute

 

[Wapping]

Let’s see how long this will be in place when the tourism starts dropping away

Has it killed tourism in the Alps, Black Forest and other places where bikes are banned on certain days and / or between certain hours? The answer is…… no.