Am I wrong to feel no compassion for these 2 guys?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8372865.stm
Two men have died after the stolen car they were travelling in went out of control and crashed in Ballyclare, County Antrim. The incident took place on the Colin Road at about 1320 GMT on Saturday.
The men, who were both 23, died at the scene. The car had been stolen from a house at Killyglen Road in Larne earlier that day.
Police spotted the car in Ballyclare town centre shortly before the accident.
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My feeling is 2 less from the gene pool to worry about or is that me being harsh?


They stole someones car it could have been mine could have been a one parent family, etc etc etc


So they're a right pair of scumbags in my book before anything starts ??


Thankfully no one was hurt or injured except the thieves! Oh Dear, Soooo feckin sad!
 
A few years ago here in Cork, there was a spate of stolen car crashes where innocent people died. One couple walking home of an evening were killed when a stolen car went out of control and struck them. As far as i'm concerned anyone who commits any crime and gets injured or killed in the process gets everything they deserve. No sympathy here either.
 
Regardless of their actions it is a tragedy that two young guys have died leaving behind grieving relatives and not having lived a full life. So yes, I feel compassion for them...
 
Difficult to argue with you. I would n't wish death or serious injury on anyone though. Then again I've never had anything stolen or harm done to my family so any of my comments become instantly useless :rolleyes:

There was a report in my local rag last week about a youth who had fallen through the roof of a company that was he was clearly trying to burgle. He broke some bones and has just received not far short of £10000 damages paid to him by the firm he tried to burgle - mad world or what :nenau
Should HE have paid THEM damages:nenau
 
Monsieur said:
Difficult to argue with you. I would n't wish death or serious injury on anyone though. Then again I've never had anything stolen or harm done to my family so any of my comments become instantly useless :rolleyes:

There was a report in my local rag last week about a youth who had fallen through the roof of a company that was he was clearly trying to burgle. He broke some bones and has just received not far short of £10000 damages paid to him by the firm he tried to burgle - mad world or what :nenau
Should HE have paid THEM damages:nenau
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If someone stole my car, later crashed it and died I would hate to think that I would feel any sense of satisfaction or that they had got what they deserved?? To me that way of thinking doesn't do anyone any good...

What you say about a burglar claiming from a company he was burgling when he hurt himself is of course a shameful farce and a sad indictment on our legal and compensation system...

And Richie, not sure if you're stirring or not :thumb:P
 
Good! 2 less thieving scumbags left on this planet,no compassion for them at all,why should I have.And YES I have had stuff nicked, a bike and a car.Feckers!!!!!!And if I'd caught them.....dear oh dear,they wouldn't have gone thieving again for sure.:rob
 
I had a GSX750 Suzuki stolen in Cork many years ago by two young lads. The Guards gave chase and the young lads crashed the bike, killing one instantly. The other died the next day.

I have no sympathy for them at all. They took the chance and lost. Feck them.
 
Some rather caustic animosity on this thread :eek:
There is another thread running about putting things into perspective with reference to natural disasters. Does the stealing of a few thousand pounds worth of metal justify the death of someone :nenau

I'm sure some of us on this much lauded forum have been the perpretrators of some misdeameanor or other when we were younger but surely to not feel sadness at the death of another human being because they took a motorbike and raced it along some roads is a very sad indictment of some middle-aged men. :(

Put things into perspective guys
 
I'd rather they were caught and given proper jailtime realtive to the crime but as that'll never happen we'll let Darwin do his work.

Monsieur said:
because they took a motorbike and raced it along some roads is a very sad indictment of some middle-aged men.
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Maybe it was nothing to do with the bike and Aidan just doesn't like Langers:aidan
 
Monsieur said:
Some rather caustic animosity on this thread :eek:
There is another thread running about putting things into perspective with reference to natural disasters. Does the stealing of a few thousand pounds worth of metal justify the death of someone :nenau
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No one executed them for their crime.They did it all themselves.

Monsieur said:
I'm sure some of us on this much lauded forum have been the perpretrators of some misdeameanor or other when we were younger but surely to not feel sadness at the death of another human being because they took a motorbike and raced it along some roads is a very sad indictment of some middle-aged men. :(

Put things into perspective guys
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In these circumstances...no sympathy at all it certainly doesn't make me sad.
 
If I work hard and save my money to buy a bike, spend even more maintaining it then what gives some wee bastard the right to come and steal it from me?

These feckers won't work for anything, have respect for nothing nor no-one and think that they can just roll up and help themselves to my/our stuff? So, why should I feel any sympathy for them if they get killed in the process?

Feck them and all the pc do-gooders who try to make excuses for them.
 
Why on earth should we feel in any way charitable to these twats,they steal, they try to run from the law, they know the risks and take them, it's their call all day long.There are far too many bleeding heart liberals around these days, always finding excuses for these herberts.There are none.I like the american idea that if you break into someone's home, you're likely to get shot.Fair do's I say.:clap
 
I might feel different if they were just kids . Kids can make mistakes and then turn their lives around . These guys were 23 , knew what they were doing when they nicked the car and knew exactly what they were doing when they took such risks trying to evade being caught.

I feel sorry for their parents loss............nobody deserves to lose a child like that .
 
Strong feelings on this one lads eh! :D
I understand your sentiments regarding theft of your property and the attitude of the dickheads who do the stealing.
I'm not making excuses for them, nor would I class myself as a bleeding heart liberal but I just can't fathom how anyone would feel glad/satisfied/no pity for anyone who is killed in these circumstances ... That's all :nenau
Certainly they put their lives and the lives of innocents at risk when they stole a high performance car and (presumably) tried to outrun the police on a notoriously dangerous road (great fun that road on a bike by the way :D) but the situation saddens me ...
 
My only sympathies lie with their families. The thieves rolled their own dice. Their removal from the gene pool is the only thing that is going to improve mankinds lot.
 
My sister works in a deprived area of Belfast and I've met a lot of the kids and young people she is in contact with. One kid springs to mind who is now 15 years old - born with foetal alcohol syndrome as his mother was an alcoholic. His father was killed during the troubles when this kid was 2 or 3. His mum died 3 years ago of an overdose. He lived with his grandmother who was also an alcoholic and who died earlier this year. A friend of mine taught him at school and he was a nightmare to teach and he doesn't bother going to school any more. He drinks most of the day, smokes dope and I suppose that it's all too easy to write him off and say that he'll soon be in prison or dead. Easy to imagine him nicking a car and joyriding it ... Yes he knows what he does is wrong and yes he's had a shit upbringing and he has no hope left. To say that his upbringing has nothing to do with his actions today is ridiculous.
I'm guessing that if we knew a bit more about the two 23 yr olds who nicked the subaru that they'd have a fair bit in common with the kid I've just mentioned.
For all those reasons the news story makes me sad and I would find it difficult not to feel compassion for these guys.
I realise from many of the preceding posts that I'm going to be in a minority with this viewpoint and that some of you will be pissed off that I've brought upbringing and circumstances into it. Don't think that I'm also the sort of person who'd recommend sending a convicted joyrider off on a jolly to an outward bound course in the vain hope that they'd change their ways. I'm not making excuses for them either.
Just trying to explain why I'm at odds with Jaythro's sentiment, no harm to Jaythro of course! :beerjug:
 
davidgibson999 said:
My sister works in a deprived area of Belfast and I've met a lot of the kids and young people she is in contact with. One kid springs to mind who is now 15 years old - born with foetal alcohol syndrome as his mother was an alcoholic. His father was killed during the troubles when this kid was 2 or 3. His mum died 3 years ago of an overdose. He lived with his grandmother who was also an alcoholic and who died earlier this year. A friend of mine taught him at school and he was a nightmare to teach and he doesn't bother going to school any more. He drinks most of the day, smokes dope and I suppose that it's all too easy to write him off and say that he'll soon be in prison or dead. Easy to imagine him nicking a car and joyriding it ... Yes he knows what he does is wrong and yes he's had a shit upbringing and he has no hope left. To say that his upbringing has nothing to do with his actions today is ridiculous.
I'm guessing that if we knew a bit more about the two 23 yr olds who nicked the subaru that they'd have a fair bit in common with the kid I've just mentioned.
For all those reasons the news story makes me sad and I would find it difficult not to feel compassion for these guys.
I realise from many of the preceding posts that I'm going to be in a minority with this viewpoint and that some of you will be pissed off that I've brought upbringing and circumstances into it. Don't think that I'm also the sort of person who'd recommend sending a convicted joyrider off on a jolly to an outward bound course in the vain hope that they'd change their ways. I'm not making excuses for them either.
Just trying to explain why I'm at odds with Jaythro's sentiment, no harm to Jaythro of course! :beerjug:
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And well done to you for spouting off your opinion:thumb
 
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