Another road racer killed

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What a load of shite....more motorcyclists die each year on the roads in normal conditions. Following your argument bikes would be banned completely......is that what you want...
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bollox to you .

It is my opinion that there is just too many killed . The casualty rate is just too high.
 
Question:
How can Road Racing be made safer for the racers and spectators without spoiling the game?
It is spectacular and thrilling, but very sad to see the litany of lost lives / serious injuries.
C'mon guys!
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The Foolish Fellow said:
It is my opinion that there is just too many killed . The casualty rate is just too high.
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This is due to the fact that you have fallen sucker to the media and their reporting methods...... motorcycles/racing/death!

Yet if your were to contact..... well, shall we say the British Horse Society (BHS) and ask them if they could/would release a list of injuries/fatalities of riders in cross country event in the 2010 period, I think you would be doing very well if they handed over such figures. yet if the figures came to light, you would see quite a high number, yet, the press gives not one story.

People want to do sports, sports were risk is high but if successful at the sport your name shines over all. It is a huge gamble but the rewards are great (F1/MotoGP, for example).
If you are not in favor of such events, turn your TV off, or shut your windows and draw the curtains, and leave the brave lads and lasses to it. It is there life.

T.
 
weall take risk when head out on bikes, whether we like it or not biking is dangerous, in car you get hit the car crumples around you, on a bike the rider is the crumple zone.

its very sad day when someone died racing but they all take the same risks, cars, bikes and horeracing is the same.

there no is no way regulate how fast a racer is willing go or how hard is going push it. all can do is try highlight to these people that it is just race and thnk of families before trying beat record or win

same can be said about the Dakar rally. people die in it every year, but all you hear is "people who race dakar knwo their own risks"

every racer knows their own risks an limits when race and thats what makes ot part of the trill
 
There was a reasonable argument against the IOM TT back in the day when it was a compulsory round for international races. The closed circuit riders hated it but were forced to ride it or forfeit any chance of winning an otherwise closed circuit championship.

Now that street racing is entirely voluntary the only argument I can see against it is cost. There is the opportunity cost of the closed roads and the real cost of policing and medical facilities.

Any argument based on other people exceeding your own safety comfort zone is bound to be shot down.

Would I do it? No

Do I go and watch it? Not really, the TT format is boring as you can't see most of the action and you don't get the real time racing from the circuit. Also I feel a little ghoulish as there is an element that go to watch for the crashes.

Should it be banned because I don't like it? I rather they banned rugby :P
 
At race tracks an on the tickets there is/was a message saying, MOTOR RACING IS DANGEROUS,no shit sherlock,we all know the risks and take them.I'm stuggling to understand how the idiots wanting it banned are motorcyclists...........riding their GS on the road is FAR more dangerous than a closed road race event.Pillocks.......:augie
 
It will be all over soon, anyway.....

why do you people who disagree with each other's point of view have to become so downright nasty and abusive, is it the inability to string together more than two words without resorting to a swear word?

There will be a natural end to RR when the Insurance Companies ask for premiums which just cannot be met, this date is not so very far away.

I will rejoice, but will not become rude and abusive to those who would wish it to continue.

Hopefully, it's demise will spur Irishmen and women of all hues to build a world class racing circuit which will attract GPs and World Superbikes and allow brave racers a much higher chance of survival in the event of accidents.

:aidan
 
harry said:
why do you people who disagree with each other's point of view have to become so downright nasty and abusive, is it the inability to sting together more than two words without resorting to a swear word?

There will be a natural end to RR when the Insurance Companies ask for premiums which just cannot be met, this date is not so very far away.

I will rejoice, but will not become rude and abusive to those who would wish it to continue.

Hopefully, it's demise will spur Irishmen and women of all hues to build a world class racing circuit which will attract GPs and World Superbikes and allow brave racers a much higher chance of survival in the event of accidents.

:aidan
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true but as i already said if you check the names of the irish road racers and the names of the guys who race on track,you will see very few names on both lists,money will finish it before anything else
 
harry said:
There will be a natural end to RR when the Insurance Companies ask for premiums which just cannot be met, this date is not so very far away.
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It may have started already Harry. :(

That is at least part of the reason that the Tandragee 100 did not run this year. From what I hear, internal politics and disagreements within the Armagh club was part of it too, but the insurance was the main factor.
 
Everything we do in life has risk. Risk cannot be eliminated - in the UK around a dozen people drown each year whilst taking a bath. But we continue to take risks because they are outweighed by the benefits.

Racing, two wheels or four, is a thrill. It's a thrill to see it and a thrill to do it. And that's the benefit. This young man tragically paid the highest price for his and our thrill. May he rest in peace.

May we also learn from his demise and take whatever steps we can to reduce the risks whilst maintaining the benefits.

Greg
 
This thread has made me feel moved to comment when I normally just don't bother.
Any death is tragic for those left behind but if you want to race you somehow block it out. I lost friends and fellow competitors on the roads but at the time rationalized it with 'they were unlucky'. It took years for me to face up to the actual tragedy of it.
I have ridden for 35 of my 44yrs, have competed in the Manx GP and Southern 100 races, always anonymous mid field stuff but boy, what a buzz. Never had the bottle to go all the way across to Ireland. Nothing else feels as good, rock climbing, mountain biking, golf! all don't quite do it. After giving it up to have a family I ventured back to the Island this year after a 10yr gap to watch the TT, a fantastic event, great weather (mostly) and a real enthusiasm everywhere. When Guy Martin and Connor came off in the Senior I became really withdrawn and started to wonder if the pressure for a win was pushing people to use up the bit usually kept in reserve for a safety net. I couldn't believe they could have survived crashes in those parts of the course.
There was palpable relief all over the Island when they said that Guy had remained concious throughout and a nationwide round of applause.
I guess I'm getting old but I do remember that wild horses couldn't have prevented me from going racing when I was 20 something and immortal.
I say let them race if its in the blood, there is no substitute.
For me, some gentle trail riding is exciting enough to keep me interested, might do an enduro or two if I get good enough!
 
red1 said:
Is that the best you can do as an argument in defence of road racing?

I can picture you now at the Colosseum in Rome urging on the gladiators to kill each other.

But don't you worry rockchunk you won't feel the pain of the crash like the rider, you can stick by the side of the road with a coffee and a fag enjoying the spectacle waiting for the next young kid to die.

You haven't the bottle to do it yourself so don't tell us what was best for some young lad.

And don't pour out that shit about better to die doing something you love, it's total bollocks and not you or your family that's affected.

That kid just missed out on 40 years of life.
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Having been a friend of Myles Byrne since school and a neighbour to his widow and children the passing of remarks by people on how the racing should be banned is ridiculous. It was one of things that Myles loved the most and he was one of the safest riders out there. He constantly gave his time to help out with the MCI Medical team to ensure that he knew what to do if he came upon the scene of an accident on or off the racing circuit.
I know many friends who have passed from this life for many different reasons but few have got to be doing the thing they loved when it happened. We are all adults and make our decisions based on the information we have at the time and everything in life has risks, its balancing them thats the tricky bit.
 
Thank you

harry said:
why do you people who disagree with each other's point of view have to become so downright nasty and abusive, is it the inability to string together more than two words without resorting to a swear word?
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Well put.
Myke
 
The more you hear about Road racers dying, the more you think 'Ahh, they will ban it'.
I hope they don't as it will be 1 more step further to a Nanny state of 'don't do this, don't do that' authority and then what is next.

I do Off road racing and do, in some cases, expose myself to danger racing a bike for my own pleasure and satisfaction. No where near as much as Road racing, but nonetheless some danger. As a young man I never used to think 'I could get hurt here', I just did it because I wanted to and I enjoyed it and I am quite sure these riders thought the same.
I am quite sure non of these men that have passed recently or historically from Dunlop to Jefferies would ever have been persuaded to stop racing because it is what they do and they are confident in themselves and ambitious enough to do it.

Me, I'd never be good enough to do what they do. I'd also never be brave enough.

Let them make their choice.
Mourn them but also celebrate them.
 
harry said:
why do you people who disagree with each other's point of view have to become so downright nasty and abusive, is it the inability to string together more than two words without resorting to a swear word?

There will be a natural end to RR when the Insurance Companies ask for premiums which just cannot be met, this date is not so very far away.

I will rejoice, but will not become rude and abusive to those who would wish it to continue.

Hopefully, it's demise will spur Irishmen and women of all hues to build a world class racing circuit which will attract GPs and World Superbikes and allow brave racers a much higher chance of survival in the event of accidents.

:aidan
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i remember quite a few yrs back Tom Herron a local racer of roads and GP fame,after Toms untimely death at the NW200 his father proposed a race
track on a farm he owned in Co.Down only to be objected by "some" neighbours, quoting noise and crowds of people spoiling their idyllic surroundings,not even taking into account the influx of revenue and jobs it could have provided, there was a little dissused quarry nearby which in later years the local council obtained and turned into a landfill site...Karma:mmmm
 
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