Anybody near Berkshire who has an Autcom with the Bluetooth option?

[Keba]

Autocom parts 55.5 and 55.6 (the lead and the Nokia Advanced (Bluetooth) Car Kit itself) are the bits that you would have if you do...

I want to see if the Rider is compatible with the kit before I go out and potentially waste 120 squids on one, so would be willing to bring my Rider with me and see if we can pair it with the Nokia kit if you would be willing to let me try and pair the two temporarily of course...

Conversely, if the Nokia kit needs charging from time to time just like the Bluetooth dongle that comes with the Rider in the first place, I may forgo getting one regardless - I can't seem to find any information on if it can be powered off the bike or not though!

Comments welcome!

 

[GSrich]

Hi Keba,

The Nokia kit will not be used to connect the Tom Tom rider so there will be no need to buy a kit. We are working on the Rider connections as we speak which should be ready in the New Year, hopefully late January early February. Keep an eye on our web site for details.

Regards

Richard @ Autocom

 

[Keba]

Hi Keba,

The Nokia kit will not be used to connect the Tom Tom rider so there will be no need to buy a kit. We are working on the Rider connections as we speak which should be ready in the New Year, hopefully late January early February. Keep an eye on our web site for details.

Regards

Richard @ Autocom

Is that 'doesn't work when trying to pair the Rider with the Nokia kit', or just that a cable is cheaper to do?

The supplied TomTom dongle needs charging periodically and can't be charged at the same time that its being used - hence the desire to use something like the nokia kit which is powered off the bike's battery.... I know of several people that are interested in getting a clear answer to the above question...

 

[Zippy]

I'm running a bike powered Autocom system with a Starcom bluetooth module (smaller and easier to fit in my opinion).

If there's anyone in the Maidstone area with the Tom Tom Rider and wants to try it out, then give me a shout and we can arrange a test and then post results.

As far as I know the Starcom can only be paired with one device at a time...but haven't tried more than my phone at a time.

Steve

 

[GSrich]

Is that 'doesn't work when trying to pair the Rider with the Nokia kit', or just that a cable is cheaper to do?

The supplied TomTom dongle needs charging periodically and can't be charged at the same time that its being used - hence the desire to use something like the nokia kit which is powered off the bike's battery.... I know of several people that are interested in getting a clear answer to the above question...

We have not tried the Nokia kit, we have developed a lead that will plug straight into the dongle. The charging point is the main thing that lets the Rider down really.

I am getting a lot of questions of customers asking the same thing so I have set a folder in my outlook that when we have got the answers and prices I will email the people to let them know.

 

[Keba]

We have not tried the Nokia kit, we have developed a lead that will plug straight into the dongle. The charging point is the main thing that lets the Rider down really.

So I'm back to 'who has a Nokia kit to test with given Autocom won't test it for us'.

I'd love to take up Zippy on his offer, but he's over 100 miles away from where I live :/

Of course, you guys at Autocom could actually test the Nokia kit for us and tell us if it works or not

Starcom1 have already stated that their bluetooth system 'should' work with the Rider, and are in process of sourcing a Rider to test with - they are sorting out a cable for those that want one of them too, but at least they are indicating they will do the next step which is to look at testing their bluetooth solution inhouse...

In case your R&D guys are interested, the bluetooth dongle supplied by TomTom uses code 0000 as the pin for pairing (which means the Rider supplies that code automatically when finding the dongle), same as nearly every other bluetooth device out there that has a 'discovery' mode. I know this for certain as I've paired it with several different bluetooth devices as a test - which leads me to believe that the Nokia kit 'should' work. I'm just not willing to fork out £120 on the Nokia kit before its tested by somebody who actually has one to test with.

The bluetooth dongle cable is a stop-gap measure that only those who are cost consious (or do less than 5 hours riding between recharge breaks) will take up - the rest of us will invest in a bluetooth system that works while the bike is turned on - Starcom1 may be the way to go as a result if they are the only people that are willing to do that extra step, as it appears whilst Autocom may have been around longer, Starcom1 have a product that is comparable in funcitonality and they will probably get an answer to us sooner than Autocom will.

At the current state of things, the first company to provide a valid permanent Bluetooth test that is compatible with the Rider will get my money - and I'll be promoting that to everybody who has contacted me regarding this as well, which will no doubt lead to some sales for that company from them as well.

 

[GSrich]

The Nokia kit would probably work but why spend more money than is needed, our interface lead will be a small fraction of the cost of the Nokia kit. We have developed our leads due to the Rider being very noisy, when we have used it the unit has given us a lot of electric hum or static so this is another reason why for not plugging in the Nokia kit. We do not want to recommend a certain part for it not to be any good, this is not what we as a company are about, I do not want to you to spend your £120 for it to cause you problems.

We are fully aware of the 0000 code it is a standard thing with most Bluetooth devices but thank you for the details anyway.

We are slighlty behind with our testing due to Tom Tom sending us the wrong mapping and setting there release dates back so many times. So we have been unable to fully test the unit on a bike but once we are back in the New Year we will be fully testing the unit and sending our parts away for testing. So we are very willing to take the extra step as you say Starcom are. If we had the correct mapping we would be 2-3 weeks or possibly more due to the delays ahead of progress and I would of been able to let you know the full breakdown of what parts can be used.

 

[Keba]

Sorry GSRich, but I think you are missing the point:

The bluetooth dongle cable is a stop-gap measure that only those who are cost consious (or do less than 5 hours riding between recharge breaks) will take up.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the cable you have developed does not power the bluetooth dongle supplied by TomTom. You also cannot plug a cable directly into the Rider as it is bluetooth only.

I'd love to be wrong on either of those points - so I'm back to either using the Nokia kit or the Starcom1 kit.

That you are getting a lot of electric Hum and Static leads me to believe Autocom have a faulty unit (either Rider or the Autocom itself) - I've not got either happening at all.