Anyone used soft luggage without pannier racks?

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I'm looking at getting something like this for lightweight touring. Along with my 15ltr tankbag and 30ltr soft bag should be enough room but I don't want to fit pannier rails to the bike. I've used throw-overs on various sports and road bikes over the years but wondered if anyone had used something like these or similar on an adventure bike without any pannier rails?
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Loads of people have. There's plenty of options to choose but that Rhinowalk gear is quality.
 
You are probably right but all the soft luggage I’ve seen on adventure bikes so far has been on bikes that have already have luggage frames built-in and I have yet to see any real life situation of how the bags tied down securely without impeding the rear wheel. Sports bike throw over tend to be so much less deep, but these are quite steep in their angle. Even most of the promotional shots of various luggage all show them on motorcycles with frames fitted.
 
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Three of the guys I ride with use a combo of Kreiga 40 ltr and either a US10 or 20. Seems to work well. None of the overhanging concerns. All on various iterations of the GS1300.
 
Big-G said:
You are probably right but all the soft luggage I’ve seen on adventure bikes so far has been on bikes that have already have luggage frames built-in and I have yet to see any real life situation of how the bags tied down securely without impeding the rear wheel. Sports bike throw over tend to be so much less deep, but these are quite steep in their angle. Even most of the promotional shots of various luggage all show them on motorcycles with frames fitted.
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Try having a better look round on the internet.
There’s are literally thousands of users who have absolutely no frames of any kind on their bikes.
We’ve run Kriega before,
Now run Mosko Moto R10, R40 and R80’s on EXC-F500’s, 701, 790/890 and R1250GS’s currently,
Only the GS’s have the small Rallye carrier they came with from the factory,
Everything else is completely frameless.
 
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Motorcycle tail bag Bagtecs SX45 Waterproof Rear Seat Bag Volume 45L

Motorcycle rear bag for the passenger seat or luggage rack with a capacity of 45 litres Universally suitable for motorbikes with narrow to medium rear width Due to the compact shape perfectly suitable also for sports models Made of hard-wearing PVC Tarpaulin, absolutely waterproof Bearer fabric...
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This bag was across the rear of seat, might still have room on the back rack for roll bag.
 
Big-G said:
You are probably right but all the soft luggage I’ve seen on adventure bikes so far has been on bikes that have already have luggage frames built-in and I have yet to see any real life situation of how the bags tied down securely without impeding the rear wheel. Sports bike throw over tend to be so much less deep, but these are quite steep in their angle. Even most of the promotional shots of various luggage all show them on motorcycles with frames fitted.
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I use the Rhinowalks on my KTM 790. Its all about getting the over-saddle straps right and then anchor straps.
I also glued a piece of felt soldering mat to the underside of the bag on the exhaust side, just in case
 
I have some Oxford lifetime expander throw overs that u've used for 25 yrs or so; you fasten a pad to the rear seat an clip the bags to either side so they hand off the fixed pad; i always lift them as high as possible so they sit on the rear bodywork; i use a bungy cord round the back of the bike to keep them pulled back to allow for theMrs feet; i also thread a strap through the handles and under seat pad then fasten the strap together just for peace of mind; those who have used them will know what i'am on about. This set up as taken us thousands of miles around europe and plenty at home without a single issue.20260806_152652.jpg
 
The cargo nets went over the rain covers to keep bags clean and dry; we just tucked the waterproofs under the nets on top of the bags so they were near to hand when the weather turned. :beerjug: this is another picture from a different trip years ago; not very clear but should give an idea of the kind of packing we did for a fortnight jollie.Screenshot_20260917-204850.jpg
 
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OK so not an F450GS, but similar size

Mosko Moto kit on a KTM690, loaded with camping kit for a 2 week trip in Iceland.
 
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I have some Oxford lifetime expander throw overs that u've used for 25 yrs or so; you fasten a pad to the rear seat an clip the bags to either side so they hand off the fixed pad; i always lift them as high as possible so they sit on the rear bodywork; i use a bungy cord round the back of the bike to keep them pulled back to allow for theMrs feet; i also thread a strap through the handles and under seat pad then fasten the strap together just for peace of mind; those who have used them will know what i'am on about. This set up as taken us thousands of miles around europe and plenty at home without a single issue.View attachment 539590
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That takes me back. I used to use virtually the same bags on various fireblades over the years.Two up and just as loaded up as that.lol
 
I should clarify that the reason I’m asking specifically about this is that there is virtually no side panel or bodywork over the rear end to support any of the bag on the inside.
I was thinking about running some kind of strap from the frame around the rear mudguard to the frame at the other side to form some form of tensioned internal strut
 

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Big-G said:
I should clarify that the reason I’m asking specifically about this is that there is virtually no side panel or bodywork over the rear end to support any of the bag on the inside.
I was thinking about running some kind of strap from the frame around the rear mudguard to the frame at the other side to form some form of tensioned internal strut
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Buy proper luggage rather than a rip off version and there’s no need for anything extra.
Mosko Moto are the best. Proper rigid self supporting base, actual waterproof dry bags which are removable unless you go for their new Alpine version in which case the whole thing comes off in seconds,
 
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www.motea.com

Motorcycle tail bag Bagtecs SX45 Waterproof Rear Seat Bag Volume 45L

Motorcycle rear bag for the passenger seat or luggage rack with a capacity of 45 litres Universally suitable for motorbikes with narrow to medium rear width Due to the compact shape perfectly suitable also for sports models Made of hard-wearing PVC Tarpaulin, absolutely waterproof Bearer fabric...
www.motea.com www.motea.com

This bag was across the rear of seat, might still have room on the back rack for roll bag.
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I’ve looked at this site before. Do you know if there are any extra taxes or VAT as am I correct in assuming this is a European site?
 
Big-G said:
I should clarify that the reason I’m asking specifically about this is that there is virtually no side panel or bodywork over the rear end to support any of the bag on the inside.
I was thinking about running some kind of strap from the frame around the rear mudguard to the frame at the other side to form some form of tensioned internal strut
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Why don’t you want frames? The 690 and a lot of dirt bikes are suited to bags like the rackless because they have bodywork at the back.

I had Kriega soft bags on frames on my 690 bit Mrs Berin used Mosko Moto but also had frames as it tied down better.

Your bike looks to me like it would want frames.
 
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