Anyone using rebuilt ESA shocks?

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The rear (presumably Showa) ESA shock on my 2010 TC has become incontinent in a way that Tena for men cannot help with!

Is there anyone out there running a Firefox racing/MCT or similar rebuilt shock that can report on its operation and longevity?

I can see me keeping the bike long term and Wilbers are at the top of the shopping list, but we all know the price . . . . .:eek::nenau

I know that I have to do something PDQ as its my daily driver. I'm just hoping that I can find a little reassurance that I am not just throwing £200 dahn 't shitter if I get the original recon'd !?!?!?!
 
Had my 2009 rear shock rebuilt and re-valved for more compression damping by MCT at 42 K miles now 58 K still good.
Bike was bottoming out 2 up with luggage on bad bumps and the shock had just started to weep.
The MCT work cured it and in a couple of days turn around.
 
That's a promising start, MCT +1! How much is their recon service? Firefox is a bit under £200, I imagine MCT are similar?
 
Had my rear rebuilt by Firefox last year, only a couple of thousand miles but feels like it did originally. Didn't have any upgrades done just a straightforward rebuild. Happy with the service, should i have it done again I would probably have the standard spring replaced with an updated Hyperpro spring .
 
Had my rear rebuilt by Firefox last year, only a couple of thousand miles but feels like it did originally. Didn't have any upgrades done just a straightforward rebuild. Happy with the service, should i have it done again I would probably have the standard spring replaced with an updated Hyperpro spring .

That's good to hear. I'm already leaning towards Firefox as they have their pricing viewable online. Can't say that I have noticed any change in the shock performance yet, but then it was -3c on the way home last night!!!!

A straight rebuild will hopefully last until I triumph in a true game of skill, and can afford to go Wilbers! So, 1-59, or lucky dip . . . .
 
got mine rebuilt by firefox as it pissed itself on the garage floor. just under £200 and turnround of 10 days. been fine since but maybe should have splashed out on wilbers.
 
Mine now has about 30K on the rear shock and it shows with a kick-back over bumps. There is no sagging under load so the spring must be fine. £200 for a rebuild against >£600 for a Wilbers does look a no brainer. But Wilbers really are very good so going low cost is likely to be the less good option.
 
Mine was also rebuilt at MCT at 32,000 miles due to a weeping seal. IIRC I paid about £98 for the service which included a new seal, fluids and gas recharge. Add Vat and postage costs and I guess it was about £140 all-in. Turnaround was a very reasonable five days (which is still too long to be stuck commuting in a car with two bikes in bits in the garage).
 
I had both front and rear esa shocks rebuilt by MCT last year. Good price, just under £200 including delivery and 6 day turn round.
Suspension seems to be better now but that may be because the rear shock was on its way out.
 
I had both front and rear esa shocks rebuilt by MCT last year. Good price, just under £200 including delivery and 6 day turn round.
Suspension seems to be better now but that may be because the rear shock was on its way out.

Was that £200 per shock, or for both?
 
Thanks to everyone who replied.

However, Her Majesty The Wife, holder of purse strings, in a dramatic and no doubt temporary shift in spending policy, has authorised the purchase of front and rear Wilbers! :JB

Your responses are not in vain though. A pal has just bought a 2010TC and I have terrified him with horror stories of exploding suspension, and BMW USA pricing new shocks at around £3100 a pair. I tried to sooth him with talk of Wilbers etc, but he's still crippled by the thought of impending wallet cramps! I shall direct him to this thread!:thumby:
 
A pal has just bought a 2010TC and I have terrified him with horror stories of exploding suspension, and BMW USA pricing new shocks at around £3100 a pair. I tried to sooth him with talk of Wilbers etc, but he's still crippled by the thought of impending wallet cramps! I shall direct him to this thread!:thumby:
Better not tell him that brake and clutch master cylinders cannot be rebuilt (BMW don't sell seal kits); the final drive wears out its internal bearings and costs from £350 to rebuild; the suspension bearings are largely BMW specific (odd) size with predictable costs; alternators seize solid and ABS pumps fall by the wayside.

On the other hand he will struggle to find such an all around great bike that handles (even with standard springs) much better than it has any right to do.
 
Just had my front ESA shock rebuilt by MCT, it had a slight leak due to lack of use, so they replaced the seal, fresh oil and all done in a day for the price of £133.80 inc vat then just spend a few hours fitting the shock, bodywork etc etc phew!
 
Well, the Wilbers WESA shocks are finally on! They have been specced for mainly solo riding at 105/110kg, an occasional bit of luggage, and very infrequent <10% pillion.

Refitting them was pretty straight forward apart from one minor part. The new front shock shaft doesn't have the allen key hole in the top to prevent it from rotating when torquing the top nut. A little piggery jokery sorted it though.

So, the ride. I wasn't quite sure what to expect as my original front shock had seemed fine, and i had only done around ten miles on the knackered rear. Initial fiddling in the garage showed what seemed to be a wider range of adjustment between the preload settings. The 'bounce up and down ass-ometer' test seemed to confirm it!

My first couple of rides were just an eleven mile commute. Set in one helmet mode the ride seemed nice. A fiddle through the damper settings and some concentration, and i began to notice more. Comfort damping seemed nice and smooth, so i selected sport. At first i thought i had immediately ridden onto a coarser patch of tarmac as i suddenly seemed to be able to feel the texture of the surface. Not uncomfortably so, just an increase in feedback from the tyres. However a few cycles through comfort, normal and sport modes showed that it is down to the damping. One helmet/comfort now seems to be a little firmer than before, but smooooooth! Like being punched through a silken memory foam pillow! Normal and sport offer an increase in feedback from underneath, and make the GS feel a little more like a bike on quality traditional, in a good way that is!

I have since done a few more miles and been exploring some local back roads. In the interests of science i had a fiddle with two helmet and off road modes and found distinct changes between each one. Her Maj hasn't been on the back yet so that report will have to wait.

More relevantly i tried one helmet+luggage. Unsurprisingly this seemed to firm up the rear more than the front, with the perceived bonus of feeling as though it put a little more weight on the front end. Again i tried the three damper settings, finding much the same again, but a little firmer overall. I say firmer as opposed to harder as it all seems to be better controlled, and more comfortable as a result.

Anyway, i started one ride concentrating on the suspension. After a bit of fresh air and near empty roads i began 'enjoying' myself. After about 30 minutes of 'enjoying' myself on unclassified bumpy twisties i saw two guys both on S1000r's coming the other way. They were both jiggling around looking quite uncomfortable and out of place. A quick nod hello, and then i glanced down at the speedo . . . . . . hmm. Now we've all heard the old GS vs sports bike on twisties blah, and i suppose it may have some merit. However what i realised about my revitalised bike was that now, for what felt like the same effort and application in my riding i was going noticeably faster, yet in more comfort, with more confidence. And loving it!!!

To conclude, Wilbers are expensive. Partly because we need two of them! However my bike, to me, feels more comfortable, more stable, smoother, more adaptable and less tiring to ride. It also feels slower. Yes, slower. But it isn't. I think it is simply that the bikes range of ability is now greater than life before WESA. When ridden now as it was before the GS is even further inside its operational comfort zone. Then when you do want to play it will take it all in its extended stride, leaving me with a great big grin. And even happier that for me, Wilbers WESA shocks really were the right way to go.

Finally thanks to Nick and John at Revs Racing for their service, advice and guidance. I went there on recommendation of another GS'er and have no hesitation in recommending them to all the other tossers. Any suspension issues, get in touch with them! www.revsracing.co.uk :thumby:
 
£1175 for diy fit and based on £/ euro exchange.

There are slightly cheaper places but they all involve posting the shocks. I'm local enough to revs to drop in for a brew!

I think it was £1295 for the ride in ride out job.
 
I've had my WESA''s fitted for a couple of years now and they really are a great upgrade on the Showa's. Cannot fault them in any way.
 
I just want to add my experiences of replacing the standard shocks with Wilbers in my case, which I had fitted this week.

My 2011 R1200GS has done 25,000 miles and the front shock had failed (weeping oil etc, etc). It took me a while to get my head around a shock needing replacing at this mileage never mind the local BMW dealer wanting £900 plus fitting just for the front! The rear one I thought could not be far behind I thought so I decided to replace both front and rear at the same time, but with better quality shocks than standard.

After checking the forums etc I settled on Wilbers, and had two fitted by Revsracing this week. I can only agree with what people have stated previously that the difference in comfort, stability, handling etc is very impressive indeed. all is much calmer and more refined than before. It is hard to describe properly, but I hope you get the idea. I'm absolutely delighted, it feels like a new and different bike altogether.

Last, but not least I would like to say how good John and Nick at Revs have been. Very welcoming and friendly chaps, a professional service all round including lifts to and from the railway station! Mine was an urgent job in the end as I'm away shortly to Jerez so I was particularly pleased they could fit the job in.
 


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