Apple Mac Vs PC

[judge]

Obligatory

As predictable a post as Trippy posting a club sticker or mentioning the 'P' word and Snoopy getting into a fix or Indeterminate asking 20 questions about well nuffin

Fekkin neanderthal luddite

 

[everywherevirtually]

I'm an Apple Mac'er

 

[mikeh501]

Agreed on whats been said above, the mac is an excellent computer for everything you would do normally. No compatability problems... it just works.

The only reason I keep a PC around is to play computer games. Everything else is on my Macbook Pro.

Btw, the Mac is great, but dont expect it to be the second coming! It does have the occassional niggle like any complex peice of equipment. Nowhere near as many as a Vista PC though

 

[richie]

I use both, my next machine will be a Macbook.

But, the way Mac stores files, especialy using the Ilife suite of programs is a complete joke. IMHO....

There are other applications you can use. I threw out Iphoto fairly quickly. As I prefer to store the photos with a simple program allowing me to put them where I want. The photoshop if anything needs doing.

Just my tuppence worth, go for the Mac they are great.

But then again so would a laptop with Ubuntu be...

The problem is WINDOZE

 

[Fanum]

As predictable a post as Trippy posting a club sticker or mentioning the 'P' word and Snoopy getting into a fix or Indeterminate asking 20 questions about well nuffin

Fekkin neanderthal luddite

Predictable because it's still true

I guess it's a bit like the difference between people who like to ride a bike they can fix, tweak, set up the fueling on and add any bits they want to from any manufacturer as opposed to those who want a glittery and more expensive bike that they just ride without being able to understand it, go to main dealers for servicing all the time and can't add on 'odd' non oem bits to.

As you know very well Andy, you can get 'under the hood' of a windows (particularly xp based, forget Vista) machine and make it sing any tune with any equipment.....you can even do engine swap-outs and add pretty much any hardware to it, re-build it and upgrade it in any way you want and make it work, but you can't (so easily) with a Mac.

I wonder if there's a correlation between PC/11xx owners and mac/1200 owners??

 

[Walowiz]

I recently bought an 24" iMac for photo and video stuff and it has been the best IT purchase I've made yet (and I've had loadsa kit at home before now, IBM, HP, Dell, Compaq...)

Someone else stated that the iLife software wasn't up to much - well unless your videos are appearing at your local Odeon, then I would have to disagree. The video editing software that the Mac comes with, is simpy so much easier and quicker to use than any of the multitude of software I've used on the Windows platform.

Before you splash the cash, just find an Apple store and you can play on any Apple product to your hearts content and figure out if they are worth the premium over a Windows PC/laptop.

It's what we did and we were sold on the iMac within 5 minutes.

Everyone who has seen and used our iMac, has wanted one, and they never said that about any of the other kit here, certainly not about any of the Dell laptops here.

When my Dell laptop packs up, then an Apple laptop is going to replace it.

Hope this helps
Aaron

 

[Dreamer]

After much soul-searching and deliberation, I got a MaBook Pro to replace my old Dell laptop a couple of years back... my wife tried it and we replaced her old NEC desktop with an iMac... my Dad (70) saw it and replaced his old PC with an iMac... a work colleague then got one too... etc.

If you can afford to, just do it. I've NEVER heard of anyone saying "I tried a Mac but have swapped back to a PC". Sure, a few occasional MS-compatibility irritations (but less & less these days), and a small amount of re-learning, but it's worth it. Do it. You won't regret it.

 

[Decster]

I wonder if there's a correlation between PC/11xx owners and mac/1200 owners??

i must be uncorrelated then as an 1150/G4 rider/user


if BuMW was seen as the 'Higher' brand of Motorcycling a correlation could be made about Apple, but i dont believe in brands as the 1150 is my first BuMW (and possibilty last) and Mac do what i need so i use it and i dont wear a BuMW/Mac twat suit.


Here ends my double click

 

[judge]

Predictable because it's still true

I guess it's a bit like the difference between people who like to ride a bike they can fix, tweak, set up the fueling on and add any bits they want to from any manufacturer as opposed to those who want a glittery and more expensive bike that they just ride without being able to understand it, go to main dealers for servicing all the time and can't add on 'odd' non oem bits to.

As you know very well Andy, you can get 'under the hood' of a windows (particularly xp based, forget Vista) machine and make it sing any tune with any equipment.....you can even do engine swap-outs and add pretty much any hardware to it, re-build it and upgrade it in any way you want and make it work, but you can't (so easily) with a Mac.

I wonder if there's a correlation between PC/11xx owners and mac/1200 owners??

To take your last point first, I've a Mac, 5 pc's and an 1100, the Mac being my machine of choice. I opened it up and put the memory in it all by myself and didn't need St.Eptoe's help.

Yes a highly competent user can make a Windows box sing but equally far less abled people try and do likewise and fail, equally some highly competent users over-stretch themselves and ferk things up don't they Bill

In the main if people treat their computers as 'sealed for life' units and booked them in to a specialist for routine servicing they'd be OK (except they'd have to make do with Vista now as very few allow a new machine to come with XP).

For the most part people just want their computers to do the things they want to do and yes some want them to look nice too, Apple do go the extra mile on making the user experience one people can enjoy and because of that they are winning converts over from people seeing them and raving about them.

The drawbacks on the computers are nothing like the iPhone as I found that really restrictive and yet again for most the iPhone will be overlooked for those drawbacks in favour of the things people do like.

Witness how many new phones are imitating (rather poorly I might add) the look and user experience of the iPhone. I've had a client use MDA's since they came out and I just set up his latest iFoney clone MDA and it is a pile of poo, virtual keyboard unresponsive, battery life makes an iPhone seem like a marathon runner.

And these are all manufacturer's who could make a good phone but are struggling making a good phone look good.

Mr Fanum Sir, you are the Tarka of the computing world

 

[cookie]

Predictable because it's still true

I guess it's a bit like the difference between people who like to ride a bike they can fix, tweak, set up the fueling on and add any bits they want to from any manufacturer as opposed to those who want a glittery and more expensive bike that they just ride without being able to understand it, go to main dealers for servicing all the time and can't add on 'odd' non oem bits to.

As you know very well Andy, you can get 'under the hood' of a windows (particularly xp based, forget Vista) machine and make it sing any tune with any equipment.....you can even do engine swap-outs and add pretty much any hardware to it, re-build it and upgrade it in any way you want and make it work, but you can't (so easily) with a Mac.

I wonder if there's a correlation between PC/11xx owners and mac/1200 owners??

i can do pretty much all maintenance on bikes and computers.

i ride a 1200 and own 2 macs because i like them. ic ould use a pc to do the same things, but then, i could ride a Jawa

i do still have one windows machine for some jobs that it excels at (cd/dvd burning mostly), but the user experience is largely unpleasant.

ps. IME apple hardware quality control is no better than bmw, and probably a lot worse.

 

[cookie]

best of both worlds?

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

best of both worlds?

that looks interesting.

 

[Hubs]

Hi, I run a training / consultancy business and we've standardised on Mac's, running 12 laptops, 2 desktops and a mail server. In 5 years, we've had one hard drive failure on a laptop, on machines that get used hard pretty much every day.

We work with a lot of big businesses, and have to produce stuff that is compatible with their PC's - occasional font resizing problems with Powerpoint aside, no problems there.

No downtime on virus, software update, or much in the way of user problems.

We use the built in video editing software to make short training video's; first one we did ( a 15 minute interview on negotiation approaches) took us about 3 hours of editing to produce something very useable indeed, in HD DVD quality.

Also manage a full website from them, create marketing materials and brochures, run a customer management system on a server based database, watch video's listen to music, watch TV.....The house iMac runs a home entertainment system, driving a surround sound amp and a projector, allowing full wall TV and sound, DVD's etc plus radio, kids homework, photo store...

My wife is a UNIX user and is happy getting under the hood of the macs - the OS is based on a UNIX core, so the technies can really get to play at a detail level.

We handle backup via the server, which backs itself up over t'internet although I use an Apple Timecapsule at home for backups.

My business partner took some convincing when we set the business up, but he won't go back to PC's now - says he just doesn't notice the machine any more unlike his experience with PC's.

I guess the telling point is we don't have an IT tech; one guy drops in occasionally to work on techie bits on the server and on the one PC we have to run the accounts package. That one machine takes more maintenance than the other 14 machines together. That, by itself, pays for any price differential ( which I don't believe exists on an equivalent spec basis).

Am I an Apple fanboy? you bet, but they have earned my support.

regards

Mark

www.positivepurchasing.com for the website !

 

[Hubs]

oh, and 1150GSA single spark and a boxload of spanners, if that helps with the bike / laptop analysis

 

[Dreamer]

If you're still not convinced...
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159092

 

[Rob Farmer]

Hmmm!

I'm sitting here reading this on a G4 I've just been given. TBH much as I want to like MAC's they are so slow and clunky. Just browsing the internet is frustrating...I can't even click on an emoticon

I'm failing to see what the fuss is about at the minute. I know mines an old one but an old pc running Warp 4 would be a better experience than this. I'll stick at it though (Damn!! no emoticons again)

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

Thats it, Rob - Tell it like it really is

none of this mac fanboi stuff.

Can you run excel on it ?

 

[Dahoum]

Am I an Apple fanboy? you bet, but they have earned my support.
!

Sums my position up too

 

[Hubs]

On the G4, I'd be tempted to do a clean install of the system software, to get it back to original state, and cram in as much memory as possible (RAM). I've noted that the newer versions of the operating system do have increased requirements for RAM and going from 1Mb to 2Mb provides a dramatic increase. To check how much RAM you have, go to the little apple symbol in the top left corner, and click it; have a look in 'About this Mac'; it will tell you what processor and memory it has. If you do a clean system install, then you will need to back up any software you got with it, if it's nice stuff.

The system install effectively clears out the piles of dross which accumulate over years. A G4 Mac is at least 4 years old, so is likely to have had a few modifications done to it over the years; however, it can be brought up to useable speed pretty easily, although the latest software will be problematic to run as it is now designed to run on Intel processors.

good luck!

Mark

 

[peepingtom]

nice posts hubs......

ill be getting myself a macbook with the dvd burner very soon as this acer is so tempraMENTAL its truely doing my head in. £800 is a lot of money to me but it sounds like a real investment. stephen fry loves apples so thats another good endorsement?.....thanks for all the posts its good to hear