Autocom - Anyone got pictures of how everything is wired in on a 1200 GS?

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I bought a kit at the NEC.

Wonder how it gets all wired together. :nenau
The pictures on their website aren't the best.

So there is a wire that goes from battery to unit, then a cable that comes out to connect your headset.

BUT how does the GPS (usually right at the front of the bike) get wired in? What about your phone and MP3? Do you have to put those in the tool tray with the unit?

Thanks in advance :thumb2

Confused in Slough :D
 
Novice said:
I bought a kit at the NEC.

Wonder how it gets all wired together. :nenau
The pictures on their website aren't the best.

So there is a wire that goes from battery to unit, then a cable that comes out to connect your headset.

BUT how does the GPS (usually right at the front of the bike) get wired in? What about your phone and MP3? Do you have to put those in the tool tray with the unit?

Thanks in advance :thumb2

Confused in Slough :D
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Tom

The wiring required is connecting the unit to a switched power source. Connecting it directly to the battery means it will be live all the time so you would find it easiest to connect it to the rear of the bikes rear accessory socket which is located on the left side under the seat.

From memory you can buy a connector which lets you piggyback on to the socket if your not comfortable on stripping the wires and soldering a connection.

Which model have you bought?
 
kit 300 .. have you got pics of how the devices (GPS, MP3 etc) are wired to the unit?

Can I have the autocom bit in the tank bag? (with all the other bits in the tank bag as well)
 
Hi,

If you are at the ACE on Sunday you can take a look at my set up.

Bring your digi camera and take a few snaps.

Bob

Red 1200GS V dirty will be thw one with vario cases and a Givi plate on the rack
 
You don't need pictures.

Fit the Autocom on the little bracket behind the tank that is made for the manual.

Take a power feed from a couple of wires soldered to the back of the aux. power socket so it's ignition switched and not straight from the battery. If you want to power more kit fit a Centech fuse panel in the tool tray (dump the useless tools), power the Centech direct from the battery with heavy cable via a relay triggered by a wire to the aux. socket.

Audio lead from the GPS can run under the plastic on the left of the tank.

I have the front helmet lead coming up between tank and seat. It is held in place by a piece of plastic wrapped around it and screwed to the rear screw that holds the aluminium side panel.


I also use bike to bike and the lead for that also comes out between tank and seat and is clipped to the rear screw on the right aluminium panel. Makes a neat matched pair. The push to talk switch follows the gps lead under the left panels and on to the switch on the left bar.

It's all very easy asnd straight forward
The rear helmet lead stays under the seat when not in use and is pulled out between rider and pillion seat when needed. My wife finds this the easiest place for plugging in when she is on the bike.
 
Pictures... hard thing to make sense of... little black wires running on and beside little black pipes and wires and stuff....

So.. considering you are good with English ;) (gooder than me anyways...:thumb)

I've made my own fuse panel, with part of it switch via a relay driven off my accessory plug, part of it live all the time... I run my GPS live off this panel, and the Autocom is switched... You can by these kinds of things from NN or elseware.. mine lives under the LH side trim in a spot that seems made for it.

I've plugged my GPS sound cable to my Autocom via a "Ground Loop isolator" (Autcom sell this, but you can go to Maplins and buy the same thing, much cheaper)... I have a Garmin 2820, so I've plugged the mono jack into my power cable, which has a mono plug in it for the purpose... This plug resides on the RH side of my instrument cluster... I only use half of the GLI, as I don't need to run the microphone to my GPS, and don't use the stereo plug.

I run the wire behind the bit of plastic below the cluster, then along the cables and pipes under the Fuel tank (RH Side)... my power to the GPS goes the same route... For starters you can run both under the exterior trim outside the tank... mine was like this for over a year... Just protect the wires from chaffing with some electrical (or if you don't mind a mess, duct) tape

If you find your GPS sounds 'scratchy' you definately need the GLI's... they cut down the interference caused by having the GPS plugged into ground, as well as the Autocom...

My autocom is held on where the owners manual is supposed to go... (almost everyone's puts it here as far as I know... it just works there...

The GPS and iPod cables are looped and coiled into neatness below the unit...
(wires exiting out the bottom, coils held in by tywraps the exiting wires) The two unused (in my case) big Autocom cables are partly coiled below, and partly laying coiled in my tool tray.

The Main big Autocom cable is partly coiled below, and runs up so that the plug exits between the front-top of my seat and the tank, on the LH corner... it has my iPod cable attached to it with tape and tywraps... (I'm tall enough that having the plug end held at the seat/tank interface will cause a detach if I stand up, so I have 8 inches or so of cable hanging out.. a longer extension cable would solve this). I have the supplied extension cable plugged into this plug, with my iPod cable attached to it for a short distance...

When I ride with no tank-bag, I attach my iPod to my suit chest pocket and the two cables run together up the RH side of my chest, one ending at my helmet, one ending at my chest, in the iPod... I take care that if (when) I exit the bike without unplugging.... nothing rips... the plugs just pull out.

Sitting down I have a coil of cable laying on my Left leg... sometimes it gets trapped between my thigh and the tank... I feel it when I move my head.

When I ride with my tank-bag (BMW OEM) I run the cable up through the strap that holds the bum-bag to the tank-bag... this causes the coil to be above my leg and clear of getting trapped... My iPod then lives in the map-holder.

My 2820 connects to my phone via Bluetooth, so I don't need to connect the phone to the Autcom... I don't bother with the microphone as I don't want to talk to anyone when I ride anyways... If I want to know if I get a call, I link the phone to the GPS and it display lets me know the phone is ringing... If I wanted to have a phone plugged into my Autocom, I'd have to make or buy the special part that allows GPS and phone to be plugged in to the same spot...

Things to watch for...

The battery in the 1200 GS is a major source of electrical noise... don't lay any coils, and especially your Ground Loop Isolators against it..

Don't let the wires chafe

Don't arrange it so that you get your neck broken by the wires if you get tossed off...

The Autocom doesn't mind getting splashed... don't put it in a bag as this holds moisture in and will wreck the unit.

I put a bit of silicon grease on the rubber Autocom plugs to keep them slippery and working well...

Hope this is readable by someone else besides me... :o

Al...
 
It seems that all setups are a variation on a theme!

My Autocom lives on the manual clip held on with a couple of zip ties. The spare cables, pillion and bike-to-bike, are coiled next to the unit.

The supply is taken from the accessory socket and I then have the autocom cable running under the tank side panel and clipped to a clip on the top of the beak plastic.

The lead for my MP3 player follows the same route and comes out the front of the tank plastics. I have swapped the standard MP3 cable for a male-female lead so when I am on the bike I stick the tank bag on, run the cable from the MP3 player forward to meet the socket and then plug in.

The cables are generally kept tucked under the side pocket on my Famsa tankbag the only slight problem is if I stand up and try to stretch with out flicking the Autocom cable out from the side of the tank bag.

When I sort out my 2610 to wire it up I will just run its cables alongside everything else under the left hand side panel.
 
Indicator Circuit

I'm about to fit my new Autocom that I bought at the NEC too!:clap

Canvassing opinion at a well known dealers yesterday, the suggestion was made that I take the power off the indicator circuit. Putting to one side for a moment how you do that, I've not seen it mentioned here anywhere.

The logic goes that if in future there is a problem with the Autocom and the CANBUS shuts down, it will only affect the indicator circuit and won't close the whole bike down.:eek: Presumably though, the same goes for connecting into the back of the aux socket?
 
My little power board is powered from a relay which energizes it's coil from the back of the aux socket... I've killed the aux circuit lots of time with both my pump and my little 12V to 120 inverter... bike runs fine... just none of my accessories till I restart...

I'd take it from there... just be careful to waterproof the connection as it's a tad exposed...

One little reason not to wire directly to this point is if you hook up a funny load (a big coil/motor/relay with no bypass diode for instance)... you could potentially spike lots of volts into the Autocom.... not sure if this is really an issue or not... depends on what they've done inside the Autocom to protect against such an eventuality...

Al...
 
Tom,

Is it all done yet?

If it isn't, take a short trip up to Autocom in Warwick, straight up the M40.

Unit 4, Tachbrook Link
Tachbrook Park Drive
Warwick, CV34 6RH

Telephone: 01926 431249

You can book an appointment. If you use a BuMW charger through an auxiliary socket (as opposed to, say, an Optimate direct to the battery) make sure they put the little gizmo box that stops the circuit closing.

It's a pain keeping the device in a tankbag IMHO. Put it where the handbook goes or junk the tool kit (you won't use it) and, perhaps, the tray the toolkit sits in and bung it all in there. It will all fit and a Kenwood bike-to-bike radio too. They get a bit grubby with watery grit but work fine. If you are concerned wrap it in some thickish clear plastic but leave a air gap or you will get condensation.

When they run the headphone lead from the device, try to persuade them to run it so the female socket comes out by the front of the tank, sort of near where the winglets go, if you see what I mean. So much easier, IMHO, than coming out by your crotch.
 
Wapping said:
Tom,

Is it all done yet?

If it isn't, take a short trip up to Autocom in Warwick, straight up the M40.

Unit 4, Tachbrook Link
Tachbrook Park Drive
Warwick, CV34 6RH

Telephone: 01926 431249

You can book an appointment. If you use a BuMW charger through an auxiliary socket (as opposed to, say, an Optimate direct to the battery) make sure they put the little gizmo box that stops the circuit closing.

It's a pain keeping the device in a tankbag IMHO. Put it where the handbook goes or junk the tool kit (you won't use it) and, perhaps, the tray the toolkit sits in and bung it all in there. It will all fit and a Kenwood bike-to-bike radio too. They get a bit grubby with watery grit but work fine. If you are concerned wrap it in some thickish clear plastic but leave a air gap or you will get condensation.

When they run the headphone lead from the device, try to persuade them to run it so the female socket comes out by the front of the tank, sort of near where the winglets go, if you see what I mean. So much easier, IMHO, than coming out by your crotch.
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That's what I am doing .. to get Autocom to fit it. I just wanted to see if there were "options" of how it is fitted. Thanks for the tips!

All I did at the NEC was pay for the items, so they know I will be going there to get it fitted. I am just waiting for closer to our trip.

:thumb2
 
I knew I had some pics somewhere. This with an older style Autocom but same thing really

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And here's the Kenwood radio wrapped in white padding:

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Cheers!

Tobers
 
Tobers said:
I knew I had some pics somewhere. This with an older style Autocom but same thing really

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Tobers
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I could not get the seat in place with my Autocom 300 in the same place, as it fouls the height adjust bar at the front of the saddle, even with the bar at its higher setting.

Need the space where the tools were for the PMR radio.

Am I just being thick, or have others with the 300 kit had similar trouble?

Thanks,

Chris
 
GS Chris said:
I could not get the seat in place with my Autocom 300 in the same place, as it fouls the height adjust bar at the front of the saddle, even with the bar at its higher setting.

Need the space where the tools were for the PMR radio.

Am I just being thick, or have others with the 300 kit had similar trouble?

Thanks,

Chris
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Same problem for me. I resorted to mounting everything in my top box.

Sounds odd maybe, but it works OK.

Nice and secure and protected from the elements and it is easy to put my phone and iPod there as well.

I had to drill holes and seal the cables in place of course.

For the power supply I used a 4 way cigarette lighter socket thingy from Halfords. This is inside the top box. Changed the plug to a BMW style and plug it into the accesory socket under the seat.

I now have 4 sockets for Autocom, iPOD, phone charger etc..

The Autocom rider and pillion leads coil up neatly under the rear seat when not in use and are easily accessible.

If I go off-road or am leaving the bike somewhere unsecure then I normally remove the top box and all the cables are easily taken with it. Who uses Autocom off road anyhow.

I will post some photos sometime.
 
Thanks For the photo Tobers!

I thought autocom won't fit the until near the battery?

Also they said you could fit the unit plus the walkie talkie in the tools tray?? Looks like it is just big enough for one or the other ..
 
When my bike went in for service the dealers spotted the Autocom in the pannier and mentioned they fitted them to the manual clip. "Oh really, that'd be a neat trick", having already tried that one, although to be fair I hadn't tried removing the clip, that may be the next option.

Mine's probably going in the tool tray, I have a little bag that sits on the very back of the seat to hold a disc lock and various tools.
 
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