Autocom fit to 1200 GSA

[Beemer]

I've just purchased an Autocom Active Plus Kit200 and would appreciate a few pics of where the best place to site it and so on if anybody has any please?

Or maybe GSRich could give me a few pointers?

Either way I'd be obliged.

Ta
Steve

 

[GSrich]

Stay away from the manual holder area as this is not the best of locations due to engine interference and the gap between the seat and the tank lets water in which would go onto your system etc.

I always fit the main control units into the plastic tool tray under the riders seat as they are a lot drier and further back from the engine so no interference.

Power wise the live (red wire) is taken to the auxiliary power socket via the red/green wire. The earth (black wire) is ran direct to the bikes battery.

Rich

 

[Beemer]

Thanks for that Rich

Steve

 

[GSrich]

No worries

Rich

 

[Big Nick]

I was going to just stick a BMW sized accessory socket onto the autocom and plug it in

Any issues by doing it this way as I can't think I'd use the accessory socket for anything else??

 

[nick]

Accessory socket is fine.

In fact I use a four-way accessory socket connected to the BMW one ...

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[Henski]

I also use the tool try but I cut the bottom section off to allow the Radio (Kenwood TK3201) ,Autocom (Pro 7 sport) ,Blue tooth dongle and 1 filter to sit deepr down and allow the seat to fit correctly. I left the top section on as it has the rubber which the seat under bar sits against (presumably to keep it from bouncing and tighter), no interference and works a treat. Power for the Autom and Dongle from the standard socket via DIN plug.

 

[Jaycee]

Rich - in regard to locating the Bluetooth Adaptor, (Dongle) does it have to be protected from the weather, i.e. under the seat or some other panel. I'm trying to position it in such a way that it's 'visible' to other Bluetooth devices and can also be accessed easily if I need to change the pairing.

 

[Beemer]

All soldered in to the back of the aux' socket and the unit works fine having tested it with both headsets in the garage. Just got to fit the lids up and all will be sorted. I've done it exactly as you said Rich, it's fits in the tray quite neatly.
Thanks again.
Steve

 

[Jaycee]

Looks like we're both doing the same task at the same time Beemer.

Rich, I decided to locate the dongle adjacent the main Autocom unit and see how everything performed when the bodywork and seats were refitted, everything Bluetooth-wise was OK so that's sorted.

 

[GSrich]

Good work chaps, as for the BT dongles you cna fit them with the comms main control units or we sometimes tuck them away under the plastics by the headstock

Rich

 

[ianm00]

Good work chaps, as for the BT dongles you cna fit them with the comms main control units or we sometimes tuck them away under the plastics by the headstock

Rich

Rich can I ask a question about the BT unit.

The BT unit provides wireless link from zumo to autocom, surely if you need to mount the BT unit close to the zumo and I assume wire the BT unit back to autocom wouldn't you be better just wiring the audio/mic connections from the zumo to the autocom unit without using a BT unit? Mounting the BT close to the zumo sort of defeats the object of having the wireless link? Or is there also a wireless connection from the BT unit to the autocom?

Ian

 

[Beemer]

Looks like we're both doing the same task at the same time Beemer.

Nice one
Just got to put my C2 back together tomorrow and it'll be ready for a road test.

Steve

 

[Jaycee]

Ian - a very good point well presented! In answer to the question in your final sentence, the Bluetooth dongle plugs into the Autocom unit, there's no wireless link between the two.

As I said above, I elected to mount the dongle adjacent the Autocom unit in the rear storage area under the rear seat on my RT. Eventually (when part 1314) arrives I'll be using it for nav guidance and music from the Zumo, and phone-to-Zumo-to-Autocom via Bluetooth for phone only, but at present I don't have the lead and have everything linked via Bluetooth - nav guidance, music and phone, and all work fine. Obviously line-of-sight helps, but generally Blueooth is fine up to a radius of 10m as long as there isn't something like a 2ft thick wall between the two.

 

[GSrich]

Rich can I ask a question about the BT unit.

The BT unit provides wireless link from zumo to autocom, surely if you need to mount the BT unit close to the zumo and I assume wire the BT unit back to autocom wouldn't you be better just wiring the audio/mic connections from the zumo to the autocom unit without using a BT unit? Mounting the BT close to the zumo sort of defeats the object of having the wireless link? Or is there also a wireless connection from the BT unit to the autocom?

Ian

Its swings and roundabouts on this one, if you were to run our lead 1299 for example the main problem is the muting via the AUX2 socket so as the BT dongle plugs into the AUX1 socket there is no muting etc.

We recommend mounting the dongle as close to the Zumo as possible to avoid the chances of the link being dropped or lost and also to improve the signal strength.

Rich

 

[ianm00]

Its swings and roundabouts on this one, if you were to run our lead 1299 for example the main problem is the muting via the AUX2 socket so as the BT dongle plugs into the AUX1 socket there is no muting etc.

We recommend mounting the dongle as close to the Zumo as possible to avoid the chances of the link being dropped or lost and also to improve the signal strength.

Rich

Rich,

I haven't actually got autocom on my bike but have been considering it for a while. The only thing that puts me off is too much wiring and finding a suitable place to mount the unit and also a PMR radio as I would like the bike to bike option. Can you please explain what you mean with the AUX1/AUX2 muting issues. Can you not use the zumo/autocom/phone etc in the same way irrespective of using either the bluetooth module method or the connecting wire (lead 1299) method?

Thanks

Ian

 

[GSrich]

Hi Ian,

As our systems were designed and on the market before the Zumo's the AUX2 sockets are mainly there for music use so there is a 50% mute when the mics are opened.

So when a Part 1299 is being used on a phone call for example every time you speak with a person on the phone their volume is muted 50%, this make the calls hard to be heard.

With the BT dongle plugging into the AUX1 socket which is designed for phone use only there will be no muting at all on any calls, we then use a Part 1314 which is a 2m long isolated music lead that will run from the Zumo cradle and then to the AUX2 sockets on the systems to connect the GPS and music side of the Zumo.

Or you could run the BT dongle by itself but they are not designed for stereo music so the music will not sound the greatest but will run fine for the phone and GPS instructions if you were to run a seperate music source.

Rich

 

[ianm00]

Hi Ian,

As our systems were designed and on the market before the Zumo's the AUX2 sockets are mainly there for music use so there is a 50% mute when the mics are opened.

So when a Part 1299 is being used on a phone call for example every time you speak with a person on the phone their volume is muted 50%, this make the calls hard to be heard.

With the BT dongle plugging into the AUX1 socket which is designed for phone use only there will be no muting at all on any calls, we then use a Part 1314 which is a 2m long isolated music lead that will run from the Zumo cradle and then to the AUX2 sockets on the systems to connect the GPS and music side of the Zumo.

Or you could run the BT dongle by itself but they are not designed for stereo music so the music will not sound the greatest but will run fine for the phone and GPS instructions if you were to run a seperate music source.

Rich

Rich,

So If I was to buy kit 300 you are saying there is no suitable input to be able to wire from the zumo to the Autocom unit? (I already have the zumo)

I was assumming that my phone pairs with zumo using bluetooth. This is good as the phone can stay in my pocket and doesnt require mounting on the bike.

Then I was expecting a wire from the zumo to the autocom unit, allowing navigation voice/stereo mp3 music/phone audio to be input to the autocom unit, and also microphone audio output from the autocom sent back to zumo for phone calls.

I think the zumo automatically stops the mp3 music or navigation sounds when the phone is being used.

Other inputs to autocom may include pmr radio, or separate music source.

I dont really want additional BT units as I would prefer dedicated wire connections as these will always work without pairing issues interference or bluetooth dropping the connections.

Looking at the pro 300 unit it has 5 aux inputs surely these could be used to acheive the combination I would like?

Thanks for your advice

Ian

 

[Jaycee]

Ian, if you don't fit the optional Autocom Bluetooth dongle and therefore don't have your Autocom headset paired with the Zumo via the dongle, everything you want will go via the Zumo's audio out socket to Aux 2 of the Autocom. You will need part 1307 - the standard 3.5mm to 3.5mm lead included in the kit, or part 1314 - the isolated version of this lead.

What I'm not 100% sure about is the mic feed back to the phone via the lead and the Zumo, as the Zumo has a separate mic input.

 

[beemerboy9]

Rich,

So If I was to buy kit 300 you are saying there is no suitable input to be able to wire from the zumo to the Autocom unit? (I already have the zumo)

I was assumming that my phone pairs with zumo using bluetooth. This is good as the phone can stay in my pocket and doesnt require mounting on the bike.

Then I was expecting a wire from the zumo to the autocom unit, allowing navigation voice/stereo mp3 music/phone audio to be input to the autocom unit, and also microphone audio output from the autocom sent back to zumo for phone calls.

I think the zumo automatically stops the mp3 music or navigation sounds when the phone is being used.

Other inputs to autocom may include pmr radio, or separate music source.

I dont really want additional BT units as I would prefer dedicated wire connections as these will always work without pairing issues interference or bluetooth dropping the connections.

Looking at the pro 300 unit it has 5 aux inputs surely these could be used to acheive the combination I would like?

Thanks for your advice

Ian

What Richard is saying is there is no totally foolproof method of using wired-only connections within your parametersi.e. mobile phone, stereo music.
If you are prepared to compromise on say Mono Music, there might be a wired-only way using part 1298.