Autoswitch questions : Any chance the cancel indicator wire has changed colour?!

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I have wired up an autoswitch and relay for some Micro DE fogs. Decided to test them before connecting up the lights. Problem though - autoswitch LED stays on rather than just blipping on for a second. Cancel swith does nothing.

Disconnected trigger sensor wire (Orange) which was connected to the Brown and White wire in the fuse box and then the autoswitch led works properly - ie on for a second then off - but of course no way to test switch.

Looking at Migsels diagram (I used bigtrailbikerider's instructions to wire up in fuse box- thanks :) ) I see that the wire order coming from the instruments up front is different to mine. Is it possible that the colouring system has changed? I have an 04 ADV.

I have a multitester - the brown/white under the fuse box appears to default to ground.

Finally I guess the autoswitch could be duff but I don't think so. Is there anything I can do with the now free ornage trigger wire to simulate the cancel button being pressed and held down?

Below is first my wiring from switchgear and then Migsel's picture from his instructions.



Cheers,

Mark
 

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And Migsels' picture - note where he has connected brown and white looks like my brown and red wire.
 

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Okay - just read that grounding the orange wire is required to trigger it - I have touched it to ground directly and it works fine - flashes red/green then switches to green. Then doing it again switches it off - good stuff. So now I know the autoswitch works fine I need to work out why my brown/white was the wrong wire?
 
I have just fitted an autoswitch to my 02 GS. I connected to the brown/white wire under the indicator relay in the fuse box. Might be a good check to see if it is the same brown and white ?
 
Has the wire changed colour? Yes, quite probably. Suggest you contact your dealer.

When we did three bikes together - 2002, 2002 Evo-III, 2003 twin-spark - every bike was different despite all being made within 1 year.

Mike
 
Mark,

First off, follow this:-

Autoswitch Wiring:

Red – Green/blue wire inside the fuse-box (only live when ignition is switched on).
Purple – Relay Terminal No 86. (Relay Control wire, once indicator cancel switch has been depressed longer than 0.8 sec sends supply to relay).
Black – Relay Terminal No 85 (Earth, then a Piggy-back connector to Brown wire inside the fuse-box.)
Black Twin Core – Pre-wired Bi coloured LED (Secured in place by the self adhesive cable tie base).
Orange – Brown/white wire inside the fuse box. (Trigger sensor wire from indicator signal button).


Relay Wiring:

Relay Terminal No 85 – Earth.
Relay Terminal No 86 – Relay Control from Autoswitch.
Relay Terminal No 87 – Supply feed to the auxiliary lights.
Relay Terminal No 30 – Main (10a) fused feed from the battery.

If the LED is "live" all the time you must have a permanent live there, not a switched one from the indicator switch via the relay.

Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you full instructions c/w pictures by return.
I have also sent the same to BHT and it will be added to the Wisdom section within the next few days, he promised!

Regarding cable colour changes, I have fitted rather a lot of Autoswitches to GSs ranging from models aged 1999 to 2004 and I have always connected to the same colour cables without any problems to date?

BTBR
 
Autoswitch Wiring:

Where to connect to?

The green/blue cable on the left hand side is the ignition live.

The other two cables on the right are brown (earth) and the brown/white or signal feed from the indicator switch.

BTBR
 

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Thank you all ! Yup - I managed to find another brown/white wire under the fuse box which was not the right one. Used the one Bigtrailbikerider points out and all now works really well.

Thanks again .... (love this site!)

Regards,

Mark
 
Can I resurrect this thread and ask a simple question?

I want to wire up my auxilliary lights as follows...

Fogs to come on and go off with dip beam.
Spots to come on and go off with main beam.

Option to switch off lights so as to run either main or dip on their own without auxilliary lights..... with me so far?

I have "autoswitches" from NN.

Now, can I connect the red leads of the "autoswitches" in the following manner. One to main beam live and one to dip beam live?
Orange lead to earth via cancel switch as "normal"..

Will the "autoswitches" cope with this? ...:confused:
 
Ugleebugga said:
Can I resurrect this thread and ask a simple question?

I want to wire up my auxilliary lights as follows...

Fogs to come on and go off with dip beam.
Spots to come on and go off with main beam.

Option to switch off lights so as to run either main or dip on their own without auxilliary lights..... with me so far?

I have "autoswitches" from NN.

Now, can I connect the red leads of the "autoswitches" in the following manner. One to main beam live and one to dip beam live?
Orange lead to earth via cancel switch as "normal"..

Will the "autoswitches" cope with this? ...:confused:
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:confused: Why are you using two Autoswitches?????

Wire the spots to be controlled via a signal from the main beam circuit, hence no need forr any extar switches. Plus why would you want to switch the spots on and not the main beam. :confused:

The Autoswictch wired via the ignition is a different circuit to the OE lights anyway so you can switch them on or off, assuming that you have a GS with an OE light switch of course?

You can of course make what is a very simple lighting circuit, very complicated by adding more switches than are really necessary??

The system that I fit only has one Autoswitch and only one 1/8" hole is drilled for the whole fitment...and thats four lights in total, two for dip and two for main.

If you are still insistent on using an NN Autoswitch, then go for the 5NB2, one switch that controls two functions.

Alan
 
Ugleebugga - do you mean, you want the auto switch to turn the aux lights on or off, but when they're switched on, they automaticly switch from fogs to spots when you switch from dip to main -

you can do this with one auto switch, but you've got to add another relay to switch the power between the two -

i've a wiring diagram in the workshop, i can let you have, if this is what you want - ;)
 
Thanks for the replies...:)

Big... what I wanted to say was what Steptoe said... :D I was just a little confused... What can I say... years of abuse take their toll on a fellow ....
Thanks Steptoe... if I could have a little peek at the diagram, I'd be gratefull..:beerjug:
 
Not that I'm impatient or anything..... Noooo... not me... but if you could find it in yer heart to post the diagram, I'd appreciate it..... :D
 
Ugleebugga - have a look at this thread here which has Mike O's wiring diagram for toggling between fogs and spots depending upon whether you have dip or main switched - you will need to add the autoswitch into the circuit as well buts thats the easy bit. However I went with bigtrailbikerider's advice in the end 'cos it was way simpler and works really well.

Cheers,

M
 
The one i use is far far simpler than that - i've fitted it to lots of bikes without any trouble, it all stays in the relay box.

Ugleebugga, i've been a bit busy trying to earn a living, hang-on in there ;) :D
 
markyp said:
Ugleebugga - have a look at this thread ....
M
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Cheers, Mark, gonna have a peek at Steptoe's idea too....

My wife would like me to pass on her thanks for all on this forum who have managed to turn riding my plain Jane GS into a social gaff and caused me to spend lots of hard-earned dosh on things I didn't know I needed... :D
 
Guys, you collectively saved me a huge amount of stress yesterday. I did exactly the same as markp and had a solid red led on powerup. I too missed the OTHER brown and white wire in the lashed loom. Switched it over and reinsulated the OLD brown and white and it's all sweet.

the lights get really hot through one was smoking / steaming for a while. They've been on the bike for a while and got wet and covered in crap, so i guess it's just that burning off???....

Anyway thanks to you all

Simon
 
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