Bent pillion footpeg hanger

everywherevirtually said:
I have looked at some of the BMW designs of the rear subframe and my photo shows a bolt just up from the bend. I am beginning to wonder if that particular section of the subframe can be removed and replaced. Essentially the strut that holds the footpeg hanger. I am going on the hunt for more detailed diagrams of that area.

To be honest if I could just bend the footpeg into place I wouldn't be too fussed about the bend. It doesn't affect my luggage setup or anything else. I'm only doing this for my lady's comfort :rolleyes:
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It is the whole rear section.........:blast

I am temted to dig out the 10T autobody jack aand give it a go

cheers Eythor
 
My Kawasaki Versys frame was a development of the ER6 road bike, to stiffen the rear sub frame for the expected panniers and top boxes two extra diagonal tubes were added. These carried the pillion foot rests and were simply bolted to new lugs on the frame.
These extra tubes were not needed to stiffen the frame for handling or to carry the shocks etc. The GS800 is similar, the diagonal tubes are probably
only required to support the weight carried on the back end.
With this in mind I think it is possible to cut the tube off the frame, probably below the exhaust hanger, make any repairs and refit it with a good fitting tapped insert inside the tubes to rejoin them.
 
everywherevirtually said:
OK chaps have any of you adventurous types bent your pillion footpeg hangers?

I had an off in the snow back in January and didn't think much of it. Only today when my beautiful assistant jumped aboard did she inform me that something was not right in the stern quarters of the 800. :rolleyes:

The right peg in the photo is the normal one by the way. The left is... err... a little off shall we say :eek

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In your experience what do you think would be the best approach to get this back into position? heat it up and slowly bend it by way of leverage with a big wrench or heat it and bash it into position?

:beerjug:
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I don't know if this helps or not, but there is someone breaking an 09 650GS on eBay. In it is a link for other bits, and he has a subframe for £95. I'm not sure if the 650 and 800 share the same subframe (someone here will know). The only thing to careful of is the link then takes you to a desription saying 2007. Still, nothing ventured. Item No 250507592005
 
everywherevirtually said:
OK chaps have any of you adventurous types bent your pillion footpeg hangers?

I had an off in the snow back in January and didn't think much of it. Only today when my beautiful assistant jumped aboard did she inform me that something was not right in the stern quarters of the 800. :rolleyes:

The right peg in the photo is the normal one by the way. The left is... err... a little off shall we say :eek

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In your experience what do you think would be the best approach to get this back into position? heat it up and slowly bend it by way of leverage with a big wrench or heat it and bash it into position?

:beerjug:
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I don't know if this helps or not, but there is someone breaking an 09 650GS on eBay. In it is a link for other bits, and he has a subframe for £95. I'm not sure if the 650 and 800 share the same subframe (someone here will know). The only thing to be careful of is the link then takes you to a desription saying 2007. Still, nothing ventured. Item No 250507592005.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-F650-GS-2...mQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item3a536a8145
 
Elvisto said:
Just A couple of pictures of the left hand passenger footpeg in relationship to the BMW centre stand,

Hope this helps, Cheers Graham


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Your peg doesn't look straight in that pic either, unless the actual peg is not fully folded out to the stop
 
JohnnyBoxer said:
Your peg doesn't look straight in that pic either, unless the actual peg is not fully folded out to the stop
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In their pristine brand new position they do point upwards a little bit.

and now for the attempt to remedy the problem with brute force :D

<object width="600" height="338"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=10070768&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=ff9933&fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=10070768&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=ff9933&fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="600" height="338"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/10070768">Fixing a bent footpeg - Attempt 1</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user910681">everywherevirtually</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><p>I had a low side off in January and figured I had only scratched my crash bars. Sadly I did more damage than that. <br /><br />I bent the pillion foot peg hanger and the rear subframe to boot. <br /><br />This video shows the methods my friend Greg and I used to try and bend it back. </p>
 
divelandy said:
Love the video. Nice to know that it's solidly built.
Must have been a significant impact to move the footpeg to it's current position. :eek:
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Well it was a 14% hill. It was snowing on ice and it was night time. I lost traction under both wheels and knew I was going down. I just stuck my left leg out and my left arm and hit the deck. the bike dropped but I am now wondering if the foot peg took the initial hit and then the crash bars took the rest as it slid along the ground. There were a few sparks to add to the show.

I am also wondering if it is a cumulative effect. It has been some months since my lady was on the back of the bike and in that time I've been off roading a few times. I wouldn't have noticed if the pillion pegs were bent over that period. :blast
 
everywherevirtually said:
It has been some months since my lady was on the back of the bike and in that time I've been off roading a few times. I wouldn't have noticed if the pillion pegs were bent over that period. :blast
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If the only time you notice this is when the lady's on the back and the bike's not affected, surely it'll be less hassle the adjust the lady.... :augie
 
jessehere said:
ttt
any word on a fix for this?
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there is no fix. If the foot pegs are bent you need a rear subframe unless you can live with bent pegs. Because of the way they are welded on they will bend the subframe if it goes down on it's side. Pretty crap really. The footpeg hangers should have a fail safe or be clamped on so that they can move in a fall.

GunZenBomZ said:
He is still an adventure at heart! He has left these forums for a break & I hope he comes back before 2012. :beerjug:
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he is working on something by the looks of it :thumb

http://www.everywherevirtually.co.uk/2011/01/13/the-wheels-are-in-motion/

after all he is "everywhere, virtually" :D
 
Be careful !

I bought a 955i Tiger a few years ago as a write off, there was bugger all wrong with it, only had 300 miles on the clock but the insurers had written it off after the previous owner had a minor off and did exactly what you did, the set up is exactly the same and they said the sub frame had been compromised because the hanger had effected it.

So, just be careful !!

I just left it !!
 
Atleast you can replace the subframe on the 650/800. Not something you can do on the new Tiger. Although it would be better if each rear footpeg had a bolt on hanger. That's the way bikes used to be built. I expect the modern way is cheaper.
 
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