Beware, your WC GSA is VERY easy to steal.....

No the police haven't been to view the CCTV footage yet, even though they are 100 yards away from where it was stolen. But after reading this thread I doubt he will, hes in the process of ordering a new bike, (not a BMW). Hes not a member of GSer.

Before it was nicked it was constantly back at the dealers anyway, as there was always something electrical broken on it. I personally don't think hes shedding any tears seeing the back of it. It left him stranded at least 2 times to my knowledge.
 
PhaedrusMC said:
Steering locks aren't fair security. They never have been.

Accepting responsibility for taking measures to secure your own bike hardly constitutes or equates to taking responsibility for those intent on stealing it?

Effective security (which a steering lock and "immobiliser" are not) - for any bike, but particularly a £15,000 bike parked in a known theft area - should be considered as fundamental an element of biking as a helmet.



The smashey and nicey places are where the nice bikes are - the fuckers know where the nice bikes are, and they'll happily go there to get them.



I really hope that that continues to work out for you. Seems a lot like tempting fate to me.

I suspect that unlucky fella was just that - unlucky. The thieves presumably had the freedom to operate unhindered long enough to beat all his security measures. TBH, I have more sympathy for him than OP's mate (who I do actually have sympathy for) - he at least did a lot more to deter the thieves, and was stung despite his efforts. OP's mate's absence of effort (or his naive (IMO) presumption regarding the effectiveness of BMW's built-in devices) was arguably effectively contributory to the ease with which his bike was stolen.



Nope: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/immobilise - "to make immobile or immovable; fix in place".


Deffo - live & let live. A lad's approach and attitude to his own bike's security are his own business.

But if lads do decide to use minimal or token security measures when parking their £15,000 bikes in known theft areas, then when it gets stolen, at least own up and admit YOU could/should have done more, and don't try to divert/place all the blame and responsibility elsewhere.

Concerned about coming across as a dick here with all my pro-proper security posts on this thread, but again - I've been there; having a bike stolen sucks hairy festering leper balls.
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FFS the guy parked near St Pauls Cathedral and nipped into a café for a coffee. That's exactly why keyless is a great feature, suggesting that a biker of an expensive bike in situations like this need to crawl around on their knees scrambling with large chains and locks as a responsibility that if not taken means they are in part to blame for a theft is daft and you could say if said to the owner immediately after his bike was nicked deserving of a punch in the face.
 
Dozer said:
No the police haven't been to view the CCTV footage yet, even though they are 100 yards away from where it was stolen. But after reading this thread I doubt he will, hes in the process of ordering a new bike, (not a BMW). Hes not a member of GSer.

Before it was nicked it was constantly back at the dealers anyway, as there was always something electrical broken on it. I personally don't think hes shedding any tears seeing the back of it. It left him stranded at least 2 times to my knowledge.
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Whats he buying next ?
 
Now this is a more modern version ,has to be better than a crap steering lock www.google.co.uk/patents/US5553471


Neil W said:
In the early eighties Kawasaki brought out a version of the Z1100a1 shaft drive that a centre stand lock feature to allow you to lock the centrestand in the down position.
A bugger to get the bike off the stand or drag away if locked down and it would need to be lifted away, got to be better than a steering lock and more use than some of the useless sh*t they put on new bikes .
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The Nutty GSER said:
Yeah, this'll be interesting!:augie:D
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The Nutty GSER said:
Yeah, this'll be interesting!:augie:D
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Could it be ?

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Dozer said:
No the police haven't been to view the CCTV footage yet, even though they are 100 yards away from where it was stolen. But after reading this thread I doubt he will, hes in the process of ordering a new bike, (not a BMW). Hes not a member of GSer.

Before it was nicked it was constantly back at the dealers anyway, as there was always something electrical broken on it. I personally don't think hes shedding any tears seeing the back of it. It left him stranded at least 2 times to my knowledge.
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So he was looking to get it nicked, claim on the insurance and buy a Ducrapi?
 
Dozer said:
hes ordered a ducati, I think its a multistrada special offer. not my cup of tea to be honest.
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And he seriously thinks a Ducati will be more difficult to steal than a GS? Oh dear.:blast
 
Wreford Miles said:
...what's of more interested to me is password security, it's clear someone is out to damage Tarka's free and easy live and let live reputation, they've somehow got hold off his UKGSer password and are posting opinions that would have those that don't know him better think that he's some beige wearing, grey out looking, energy draining, kill joy.
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Resort to personal insult if you must....(laughably weak and schoolboy level as your attempts are).
It just emphasises how far from reality your stance is and on what shaky ground your non argument stands.
 
Wreford Miles said:
FFS the guy parked near St Pauls Cathedral and nipped into a café for a coffee. That's exactly why keyless is a great feature, suggesting that a biker of an expensive bike in situations like this need to crawl around on their knees scrambling with large chains and locks as a responsibility that if not taken means they are in part to blame for a theft is daft and you could say if said to the owner immediately after his bike was nicked deserving of a punch in the face.
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Really? Securing your bike isn't worth 30 seconds on your knees?

I took/take responsibility for my part in the theft of my FJ. The thieves were of course responsible for stealing it, but I was responsible - through my "ah, sure it'll be grand" complacency - for not properly securing it. But I never blamed the steering lock. I kicked myself for ages afterwards over it. I got my FJ back but I never loved it the same again.

I wanna clarify something; IMO, the act of stealing a bike should be treated no differently whether the owner did or didn't ensure his bike was secured. And equally, the punishment should be the same.

I genuinely wish OP's mate luck & happiness with his new bike, but I do wonder if he'll adopt the same approach to security with his new Multistrada as he did with his GS (perhaps after Ducati's pointy-shoe salesman convincing him that Ducati's steering lock and immobiliser will never fail), and expect a different outcome? Or will he be one day whining about how weak Ducati's security devices are?

Someone may have touched on this - bike thefts inevitably result in blanket increases in insurance premiums, for everyone, no? The guy who always uses two chains and a u-lock and a disc lock and parks cleverly and the guy who uses just the steering lock. Not cool. Isn't there an implicit responsibility toward fellow bikers somewhere in all this?
 
So he was looking to get it nicked, claim on the insurance and buy a Ducrapi?


No I don't think he was looking to get it nicked, you idiot, if he was he wouldnt have parked it 100 yards from a police station outside St Pauls cathedral in an area packed with people on a Thursday lunchtime.

Its just I think his GS wasn't very good and quite unreliable. Just like my last 2 were, hence I changed marques too.
 
I always carry one of these with me when I park in London :rolleyes:
 

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Its just I think his GS wasn't very good and quite unreliable. Just like my last 2 were, hence I changed marques too.
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Ironic, it was reliable enough for the bike thieves to ride it away.
 
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