Binatone PMR

Peanuts

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Hi All
I'm thinking of purchasing a pair of Binatone 550 PMR's, and a couple of questions have sprung to mind (1) are they worth having which is the most important, (2) can they be fitted easily to a Autocom logic system and, (3) can you also fit an external head set, the last question is for my son who doesn't have an intercom unit :nenau.
If the answer to these are yes what other bits of kit if any do I need to buy to make the whole thing work:thumb2
All answers appreciated but keep them simple please
 
I have a pair of Binatone Terrain 550s, I bought the boxed set from Maplin when they had them on offer.

They were my entry in bike comms and they were very shortly relegated to family hand-held use. Not a bad cheap radio (though one has since failed) but getting them to work with my Autocom didn't work out very well. They have a non standard headset jack. Autocom don't make a suitable lead for it and no longer do custom leads to order like they used to.

Maplin did sell me an adapter lead that I then plugged an Autocom Midland lead into this. In conjunction with the Autocom Active Plus I had at the time others could hear me but I still had trouble hearing them.

I then purchased a Puxing PX888 radio that uses the same lead as Kenwood radios and haven't looked back since.
 
I wouldn't waste the money on the Binatone stuff, theres another thread knocking about asking the same question, have a look see there and it'll answer your questions
 
You could try these

http://www.starcom1.com/kenwood_ubz.htm

Starcom own Autocom so they should be compatable(check first)

Be careful if you decide to buy off Ebay as a lot of "pmr" radios sold on there are from the USA and wont be compatable with UK freq`s

as for fitting headsets etc my advice is buy a second hand Starcom off Ebay any thing else like leads/headsets going direct is usually a disapointment due to them not having noise cancelling mikes.The extra cost initially is made up by the fact it works.
 
as for fitting headsets etc my advice is buy a second hand Starcom off Ebay any thing else like leads/headsets going direct is usually a disapointment due to them not having noise cancelling mikes.The extra cost initially is made up by the fact it works.

Whilst the likes of Starcom and Autocom do have noise cancelling mics and the cheap Maplin type headsets don't there are headsets out there with noise cancelling mics. I have an Autocom system which works very well, however, I have a spare PMR and needed a headset that riding buddies could use, I was recommended one of these (the open face version has noise cancelling mic, full face not. I fitted open face kit to ff helmet) and I must say it works very well. Probably not usable at 90+ mph like a properly set-up Autocom but good up to motorway speeds.
 
So Bumpkin you are using the Puxing 888 are those the ones from Hong Kong as featured on eBay, if they are, are they compatible with the British frequencies, and can you pick up others using other PMR's I know these are silly questions but being a radio virgin you have to ask silly questions if you don't have loads a money to throw away
 
So Bumpkin you are using the Puxing 888 are those the ones from Hong Kong as featured on eBay, if they are, are they compatible with the British frequencies

Yes, but you need to be careful when ordering as the are VHF and UHF versions of the same radio. You need the UHF one for PMR use, 400-480MHz. PMR is a Europe-wide standard, not just UK and uses the following eight frequencies.

446.00625 MHz
446.01875 MHz
446.03125 MHz
446.04375 MHz
446.05625 MHz
446.06875 MHz
446.08125 MHz
446.09375 MHz

These obviously fall nicely plumb in the middle of the available range of the UHF Puxing PX888 (and PX 777, it's still available predecessor).

The radio comes un-programmed. You can do this using the keypad or purchase a USB programming lead and do it via your PC. I ordered a lead after the radio but programmed via the keypad due to impatience before it arrived. Not difficult via the keypad, though the handbook isn't particularly easy to understand.

I have programmed the eight open PMR channels and the default 16 Kenwood pre-set channels. These combine the above frequencies with CTCSS and DCS tones to suppress transmissions from other users on the same PMR channel. There are another 104 free programming slots out of the 128...

See here for some explanations of things like CTCSS tones etc.

and can you pick up others using other PMR's

Yes, no problem. The PX888 is fully programmable within the 400-800MHz range. However, it's best to only set and use pre-sets within the PMR bands.

Additionally the radio is not Ofcom approved operating outside of their allowable parameters so is technically illegal:

1/ Max output 0.5W ERP - PX888 is adjustable from 1W to 4W. As you'll likely be using the transceiver with users with only 0.5W sets there's little point in running 4W. The difference between 0.5 and 1W is neglidgeible in the real world and that alone is unlikely to draw attention to you.

2/ The antenna must not be removable out of the box - This is not the case with the PX888.

Further details can be found here

For mobile use you are unlikely to be keyed up in one spot for very long so the possibility of you giving cause for complaint by other users (who in the main are clueless anyway) isn't really a problem. If you were a static position and running higher output you might keep swamping the transmissions of a local business user such as a night club or building site and they would be justified in lodging a complaint against you which could lead to Ofcom monitoring and then prosecuting you, or maybe just confiscating the kit and giving you a slap on the wrist. Running the PX888 on low power (1W) this wouldn't, in practice, really be a problem anyway. If you're a business user yourself then get fully Ofcom compliant kit.

I've been using mine for over a year now and it seems a solid bit of kit. Well made and having dropped it onto a tiled floor from shoulder height with zero damage can report that it's pretty robust. Used mainly on the bike in the UK and abroad with other users employing a range of other transceivers.

I bought my radios 2nd hand off eBay but I got accessories from this Hong Kong supplier, shipping took about 7-9 days. Their prices seem pretty good at the moment as they're priced in US dollars, currently the PX888 is $75.50, that's about £46, including shipping. Be aware that you may need to pay import duty.
 
Thanks Bumpkin for all the information. I'm away in a couple of weeks but when I get back I think I will go down the way you have suggested and get a pair of Puxing 888 so you may well get anther call. But anyway thanks again and if we meet on the road I owe you one :beer::thumb2
 


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