Bmw bulletin re radiator guards

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I was shown a bulletin which covers the gs and adventure and many more models,
BMW claim they cause overheating and I was warned they could invalidate the warranty,!!!
This was mentioned as I was removing Acessories including radiator guards from the bike which I had recovered in , and now traded for a new one,
They were keen to mention it as bmw are taking a firm stance,,,,
Mine allways ran about85/ 90 c,,,
Has anyone else been told this,,,,
Roamer,
 
Mine is fine with my r&g rad guards they are a fine mesh and don't take much airflow away. I am not taking them off!!
 
There are many people who have fitted radiator guards from various suppliers and no one, as yet, has reported an overheating issue. In fact, quite a few have reported that the engine runs at the same working temperature regardless of whether they are fitted or not.

If I was an LC owner I would be telling anyone who advised me to remove them to FUCK OFF and when the get there to FUCK OFF some more

I'd love to read this 'bulletin' ...... was it generated by the Motorrad Parts Dept miffed by the lack of radiator sales? :augie
 
The hottest mine has run has been. 100 degrees but I was in stop start London traffic with an outside air temp of 31 degrees.

It averages between 80 and 85 degrees in normal road conditions and normal uk temps. I'm not taking mine off either :eek: I dread to think what the repair bill would be for a new rad plus labour :eek: :blast
 
blues n twos said:
The hottest mine has run has been. 100 degrees but I was in stop start London traffic with an outside air temp of 31 degrees.

It averages between 80 and 85 degrees in normal road conditions and normal uk temps. I'm not taking mine off either :eek: I dread to think what the repair bill would be for a new rad plus labour :eek: :blast
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According to my Nav V, average engine temp has been 81 degrees (and I've got rad guards fitted).
 
My dealer mentioned this when I fitted my Touratech guards in March 2013. As Touratech develop products with BMW, I'm not worried, but if a problem is found to be caused by the TT guards, they'll get a phone call.:rob:D
 
blues n twos said:
The hottest mine has run has been. 100 degrees but I was in stop start London traffic with an outside air temp of 31 degrees.

It averages between 80 and 85 degrees in normal road conditions and normal uk temps. I'm not taking mine off either :eek: I dread to think what the repair bill would be for a new rad plus labour :eek: :blast
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Exactly.:thumb Italy on mine in high 30's, and the bike didn't burst into flames, so I'm not worried.:D
 
Bulletin

I will be putting them on the new bike,
Not that it has overheated that wouldn't be as bad as a holed radiator, and I dread to think how much a replacement would cost,,
I can't imagine a problem in the uk or Europe with heat,,
It will be interesting to see how they go with this crazy idea as surely there would have to be overheating or a related issue to a specific product invalidate the warranty,
Roamer,,
 
OP, not wanting to worry you, but the fitting of any non BMW accessory has the potential to invalidate your warranty.;)
 
The Nutty GSER said:
OP, not wanting to worry you, but the fitting of any non BMW accessory has the potential to invalidate your warranty.;)
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Very true indeed and after all the crap I'm having to deal with, i strongly suggest you tow the line with BMW.

Do not give em reason and in the event you need to call upon the warranty remove any item beforehand.
 
DING-DONG said:
Very true indeed and after all the crap I'm having to deal with, i strongly suggest you tow the line with BMW.

Do not give em reason and in the event you need to call upon the warranty remove any item beforehand.
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Even the fluffy dice?:eek::D
 
Fair point re the fitting of non bmw stuff, the info I posted was shared for just the reason you mentioned,
Considering how many owners have been fitting this stuff for so many years it just seems a bit petty unless there are actual consequences,
Bmw are increasing their range with TT manufactured stuff and no doubt any other stuff that's popular will be added,
But for me and many others getting stranded with a holed radiator is a real concern,
Balance this against the several attempts at fixing faults and issues generally with service it's going to wear thin,,
 
And what about the comprehensive range of TT stuff in my local BMW dealers....including rad guards? Did I get them to sign a disclaimer to the effect my warranty would not be affected? Did I feck!
 
Hi (first post) - I just collected my 2013 LC on Friday from Williams BMW Manchester which came with a number of useful extras fitted by the previous owner including radiator guards - I was taken through the benefits of the full 12 month 'BMW approved' warranty before purchase so I would hope if they considered the guards to be a bad idea they would have removed them before sale and not sold me a bike that invalidated their own warranty!
 
blues n twos said:
The hottest mine has run has been. 100 degrees but I was in stop start London traffic with an outside air temp of 31 degrees.

It averages between 80 and 85 degrees in normal road conditions and normal uk temps. I'm not taking mine off either :eek: I dread to think what the repair bill would be for a new rad plus labour :eek: :blast
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Mines exactly the same with radiator guards fitted...not an issue.
 
The Nutty GSER said:
OP, not wanting to worry you, but the fitting of any non BMW accessory has the potential to invalidate your warranty.;)
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Oh dear, here we go again.
I am not worried because I understand the meaning of 'potential' in this context. To be clear the only way I could invalidate my warrenty with an accessory would be if that accessory actually caused a part of the bike to fail. In that situation only the effected part would have its warrenty invalidated.

In the example of the radiator guards; it would be very difficult to argue that the air flow to the radiators was being reduced to a level that would cause the cooling system to malfunction. Further that the argued loss in cooling caused damage to the engine.

If the cooling system was indeed that intolerant to changes in air flow it would be useless. I would suggest that travelling behind a van or with a following wind would have a far greater effect than a grill over the radiators.

If you need more clarity is needed here is a link to a guide to the legislation.

http://http://www.figiefa.eu/wp-content/uploads/r2rc-newberframeworkbrochure.pdf
 
Bigtrucknuts said:
Oh dear, here we go again.
I am not worried because I understand the meaning of 'potential' in this context. To be clear the only way I could invalidate my warrenty with an accessory would be if that accessory actually caused a part of the bike to fail. In that situation only the effected part would have its warrenty invalidated.

In the example of the radiator guards; it would be very difficult to argue that the air flow to the radiators was being reduced to a level that would cause the cooling system to malfunction. Further that the argued loss in cooling caused damage to the engine.

If the cooling system was indeed that intolerant to changes in air flow it would be useless. I would suggest that travelling behind a van or with a following wind would have a far greater effect than a grill over the radiators.

If you need more clarity is needed here is a link to a guide to the legislation.

http://http://www.figiefa.eu/wp-content/uploads/r2rc-newberframeworkbrochure.pdf
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I agree with you. Yes, any accessory could cause BMW to void their warranty on the part of the bike that the accessory was fitted to. Chances are, there aren't many accessories that would cause a catastrophic failure.

At the end of the day, Touratech is a large company. IF the fitting of one of their products caused the engine to blow up, and BMW put that in writing, then the claim would then go to Touratech.

And that's pretty much what the BMW dealer that fitted my Touratech radiator guards said.:thumb
 
Nippy Normans supply Touratech, Wunderlich, Desert Fox and many other makes of accessories.
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