BMW Enduro Helmet

[Peter Pan]

Intercom fitment

Anyone got any problems fitting the speakers to an intercom system in these helmets?

I'm finding a number of problems getting a comfortable fit, namely :
1. Because of the material used in the lining that velcro doesn't work very well
2. There doesn't appear to be any recess to mount the speakers in a place that's opposite my ears
3. Trying to fit the speakers behind the lining is awkward because just at the point where they'd logically go, the lining material in the helmet divides meaning I'm having difficulty with them staying in place when I take the helmet on and off

Am getting more disillusioned by the minute ......

 

[John Armstrong]

Anyone got any problems fitting the speakers to an intercom system in these helmets?

Am getting more disillusioned by the minute ......

Not a cheap alternative, but what about ear monitors, by, for example, ultimate ear?

 

[Cookson]

Just bought my Enduro helmet, don't pick the bike up until Saturday so can't test how it goes...fingers crossed it will be OK as I didn't read this thread until after I parted with the cash !

What I did log on for was to see if anyone knows how/where to get hold of the tinted visor. The dealer tells me that they are not available in the UK but should be able to get one easily from a French/German dealer via the internet. Anyone tried this?

Pidcocks in Nottingham told me they could get tinted visors thru dealers in Ireland.

 

[Bigtwin]

Double D is MUCH safer than a seat belt type fastening.

You pull it tight every time you use it which means that the helmet is always fitted properly with no loose strap. The others can work loose or slack over time.

But then I'm very old, and HATE the seat belt type closure.

I've got both, and shared your view. Then I just fixed the length of the strap on the seatbelt with 2 rubber grommetts that I tuck the spare into (got the idea from my son's cycle helmet with has the same system) - now it stays the same lenth unless I actively interfere.

Guess you could put a dab of superglue on the "tail" and stick it onto the chin strap for the same effect, but don't know about the glue/strap/chemical rot effects.

 

[MikeP]

I've got both, and shared your view. Then I just fixed the length of the strap on the seatbelt with 2 rubber grommetts that I tuck the spare into (got the idea from my son's cycle helmet with has the same system) - now it stays the same lenth unless I actively interfere.

At the risk of disagreeing with Droopy (as if I would ), I've never had a problem of the seat-belt buckle type strap working loose.

On a Shoei I've taken similar steps to you (but used tape) and on my two-year old System 4, the strap passes back through the adjustment buckle and has never needed re-adjustment.

The only advantage of a double d-ring that I can see is that it will go in a helmet lock but there are enough stories about coming back to the bike and finding unmentionables inside the lid have deterred me from ever leaving a helmet so exposed.

I think I've given up trying to find something to replace the System 4. After the disapointment of the BMW Enduro lid, I've looked at the Arai, I don't know what it is but I just don't like it. The BMW System 5 can be convereted but unlike the System 4, I cannot find any reference to a peak for it (I have the peak and cheek pieces for the System 4 and regularly swap it from full-face to open-face to enduro type for use with goggles.

Guess I'll just have to try and eek out the life of it for a while yet!

 

[Peter Pan]

Sorted!

I thought it may be something like that Tarka, but I spent an hour yesterday afternoon going on short high speed runs to try and (rationally) compare the noise and turbulence of the new helmet vs. my old Caberg.

While the Caberg was definately MUCH noiser, I never got any turbulence - at least nowhere near as the Enduro. I'm sure that while out riding with the Enduro on I would (though perhaps not as consciously as you're suggesting) moved my head around at different angles. I didn't detect any noticeable difference.

I'm a short arse with a lower seat so (generally) sitting quite well down.

If I get the chance for a run this afternoon (family committments permitting), I'll try it as you've suggsted and also without the peak.

I was sorely tempted to take the BMW Enduro back for a refund but decided on balance that as it was so much quieter than the old Caberg I could probably live with just removing the peak for the occasional high speed motorway run to get to somewhere exotic!

Okay, went on a 90 mile run on Friday with the peak in place. Still having a terrible experience. Went on a 170 mile yesterday without the peak in place and hey Presto! the resonnance problem has all but disappeared!

To my mind this has confirmed that the peak in the helmet is what was the cause of my problems. The ride is much better without it. Bit of a bugger buying an Enduro style helmet and not being able to wear the peak though ......

I've also overcome the "where do position the intercom speakers" problem I had by cutting a slight slit in the lining of each cheek pad and tucking the speaker behind the lining .........

At least I have a functional helmet though not as FULLY functional as I'd hoped.

 

[Freakboi]

I bought a Shoei Raid 2 last year and was introduced to the Pinlock anti-mist visor with it... very impressed. I like the look of the Enduro lid and might be tempted to get one for my short commute on my 650GS (it would look the part after all ) but will that sort of curved visor take a pinlock? I've found it brilliant over the winter months and don't know if i'd go without now.

 

[Duke999]

Okay, went on a 90 mile run on Friday with the peak in place. Still having a terrible experience. Went on a 170 mile yesterday without the peak in place and hey Presto! the resonnance problem has all but disappeared!

To my mind this has confirmed that the peak in the helmet is what was the cause of my problems. The ride is much better without it. Bit of a bugger buying an Enduro style helmet and not being able to wear the peak though ......

I've also overcome the "where do position the intercom speakers" problem I had by cutting a slight slit in the lining of each cheek pad and tucking the speaker behind the lining .........

At least I have a functional helmet though not as FULLY functional as I'd hoped.

Agree....I went out at the weekend to do the 600 miles required for the bike to get its first service. For the 1st 100 I had the peak attached and stopped several times to try and adjust the peak and the screen to get a point where it stopped the resonnance problem. I managed to reduce it but not remove it. Took the peak off and after that the problem disappeared. The helmet doesn't look as good which is a shame as I would have stuck with my Arai if I was going to have a fairly conventional looking helmet but at least now the Enduro can be used.

The other thing I am finding..after 600 miles in 2 days..is that the Enduro is taking a long time to bed in. It is certainly the right size but traps my ears when putting it on (probably why it is fairly quiet) and after about an hour or so it gets tight on the forehead. I am hoping that it is just the thing breaking in and I really havent just thrown £250 down the drain !

 

[Tarka]

I really can`t come to terms with all this whingeing over buying an off road helmet and then being surprised that it`s not ideal at high speed on tarmac.

Or the complaining that intercoms can`t be easily fitted.

And as for buying a peaked helmet and then only using it with the peak removed.....err yeah...

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

I really can`t come to terms with all this whingeing over buying an off road helmet and then being surprised that it`s not ideal at high speed on tarmac.

Or the complaining that intercoms can`t be easily fitted.

And as for buying a peaked helmet and then only using it with the peak removed.....err yeah...

 

[Peter Pan]

I really can`t come to terms with all this whingeing over buying an off road helmet and then being surprised that it`s not ideal at high speed on tarmac.

Or the complaining that intercoms can`t be easily fitted.

And as for buying a peaked helmet and then only using it with the peak removed.....err yeah...

Absolutely right Tarka. Can't grumble at that and one has to go back to the reasons why one buys an enduro style helmet in the first place.

For me, it was because I liked the style and look of it, and I thought (albeit incorrectly) that it would function as well as my friends Tour X.

That said, it doesn't function as I'd have ideally liked. I can (and will have) to live with it - though I hardly consider 65mph as being "high speed".

However, should anyone else be considering buying a similar helmet for a similar reason as me, then they should be aware of the shortfalls of this particular helmet - including the difficulties associated with fitting an intercom!

Just trying to help other GS'rs .....

 

[Dick Dastardly]

Tarka says he simply angles his head with his Bell to stop buffeting

Is this in the correct thread :whatthefe

 

[Betty Swollocks]

OK, it's not for me. But I cant get the same info on the Arai Tour-X.....
I know there is some buffeting, but is it much better than the BMW enduro??
I have the cash, my local dealer is doing a cracking price for the Tour-X, but I would like to know if it is bearable at motorway speeds????

 

[Commuter]

Sizing

Has anyone tried the XXL verison of this lid yet? If so, how does it compare with a Shoei /Arai type fit. I have a serious attraction to this lid and especially because they can't get them in the USA at all. Coming over in July and plan to pick one up.

Also, anyone know the price compared with Europe as we all know the UK gets robbed normally on this type of kit.

 

[Wizard]

OK, it's not for me. But I cant get the same info on the Arai Tour-X.....
I know there is some buffeting, but is it much better than the BMW enduro??
I have the cash, my local dealer is doing a cracking price for the Tour-X, but I would like to know if it is bearable at motorway speeds????

If it fits, motorway speed is fine. However, I found that after a while mine really started to hurt my forehead because it was a teeny tiny bit tight. If it had been any other lid, it would have been fine, but because of the peak I had to trim the front edge of the lining to an absolutely 100% match to my forehead. Done another 3k since with no bother

 

[Loz]

only one thing more noisy than a tour-x and that's an mp3 player with MOTORHEAD blasting out,i'm 6-4 on an adv but a mate(5-6 1200) think's it's great,when i wreck the tour-x i'll buy a proper offroad arai and use goggle' to and from event's and a system5 the rest of the time .........loz

 

[John Armstrong]

when i wreck the tour-x i'll buy a proper offroad arai and use goggle' to and from event's

Wait till you're "making progress" and it starts to rain

 

[wildbeeste]

I was going to buy the BWM enduro and this thread has put me off.
I was going to buy the Arai Tour X and this thread has put me off.
Is there anything else that I should not buy?

 

[Mutley]

I was going to buy the BWM enduro and this thread has put me off.
I was going to buy the Arai Tour X and this thread has put me off.
Is there anything else that I should not buy?

A 1200

 

[Peter Pan]

I was going to buy the BWM enduro and this thread has put me off.
I was going to buy the Arai Tour X and this thread has put me off.
Is there anything else that I should not buy?

My Mate who's 5'11" has got a Tour X and after plugging the ventilation holes inside the helmet (he claimed it was too noisy before), he's very happy with it.

Only problem is that he rides a Varadildo! :whatthefe