paco fernandez
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Even include maps.
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Bmw Navigator 5
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it also links to your ABS /stop light when you first fire the bike up ( goes off when you apply brakes same as in dash..
I think its great and the screen is much improved over the IV.. brightness/contrast
and its got Maps!
I think its great and the screen is much improved over the IV.. brightness/contrast
and its got Maps!
I agree..
Brill bit of kit..
Bigger screen, all of it used compared to my 660..
Contrast on small street names & colours are close to perfect..
Only fault is no speaker when used in car mount, needs pairing with Bluetooth to hear directions..
Brill bit of kit..
Bigger screen, all of it used compared to my 660..
Contrast on small street names & colours are close to perfect..
Only fault is no speaker when used in car mount, needs pairing with Bluetooth to hear directions..
They are releasing a car mount specifically for the V which will have a built in speaker
Gawd knows what they will charge for it though. I was going to have a word when I visit the NEC tomorrow, I'll post up if I find anything
Gawd knows what they will charge for it though. I was going to have a word when I visit the NEC tomorrow, I'll post up if I find anything
The lack of a speaker (for use in a car) is probably not so great a consideration if the designers had been tasked with producing a specification predominantly aimed at motorcyclists. Bluetooth capability makes equal sense, given that many motorcyclists prefer it over wired Autocom type set up's.
Given that most modern cars have inbuilt Bluetooth systems within their own radio / entertainment functions, not adding a speaker is sensible.
Given that most modern cars have inbuilt Bluetooth systems within their own radio / entertainment functions, not adding a speaker is sensible.
Not really - I've yet to come across a car sound system that supports dual-pairing. So you'd have to pair the Nav V with your car to the exclusion of being able to stream music from your phone, for example. The other option would be a Bluetooth speaker for in-car use with the Nav V. Having said all that, the speaker in the Nav IV isn't the best, possibly because of the need for it to be waterproof.
Is true.
Thinking about it, I have inbuilt navigation in the car, the iPod I connect via an inbuilt direct connection and the phone goes via Bluetooth.
That is if I can be bothered to do anything above listening to Radio 4 and Five Live, which is rare.
The lack of the speaker in the device itself and its reliance on Bluetooth for motorbike use still makes sense even so. Either way, I'm not much fussed. I don't use a phone on my motorbike, nor listen to music, nor have the voice messages turned on. So they can remove the Bluetooth completely (along with the speaker) for all I care.
I've no problem with it not having a speaker, as you say, probably maintains better integrity of the unit. I also have a cheapo Nuvi for the car, but my Nav 5 comes with lifetime maps so it would suit me to use it as my one and only nav and flog the Nuvi.
I suspect the proceeds from the Nuvi will not cover the car windscreen bracket though
I suspect the proceeds from the Nuvi will not cover the car windscreen bracket though
As the nav 4 is based on the zumo 660 ,correct me if im wrong
Will the nav 5 have a zumo upgraded equivalent
Will the nav 5 have a zumo upgraded equivalent
I thought the car kit had a speaker built in like the old 610 or was it 620.
Correct, the speaker is in the car cradle. Spoke with the BMW stand at NEC today and they said it is or shortly will be available but no price details yet. I'll give my dealer a call tomorrow and see what I can learn.
The Nav 5 is effectively a Nuvi in disguise, with added bells and whistles that only serve to make it work with BMW Motorrad's iWheel.
It's easy to guess that BMW specced the device to be no larger than the 660 / Nav IV and / or make it have the same power input / output channels, so that it would fit the current Nav IV cradles; retro compatible or whatever the phrase is.
Garmin could very easily release a 770 (550-660-770 seems logical). Whether it would pick up all the other data without being attached to a 'modern' generation motorcycle is another matter. But you'd get the clearer screen, different layout etc.
Time will tell.
PS The Nav 5, attached to the new generation WC's is already displaying more information on its screen than it does when attached to my 2011 1600 GT, the first bike to have the iWheel. For instance, I have no option (at least not one that I have found) to display engine temperature or tyre pressure.
There may of course be two simple reasons for that:
1. My bike may just need a software update
2. The 1600 already has a bigger screen of data than the 1200 offers, capable of displaying the data. So it doesn't need to display it via a navigation device, too.
If they do release a generic unit using the same architecture as the Nav V, it's very unlikely to called 770 as that's the designation of the nüvi 760 which comes with pre-installed City Navigator NT in both Europe and North America variants. Trust me, my lady wife has nüvi 770 in her car.
That I can follow, as the Nav 5 is sort of a Nuvi in disguise anyway.
A rose by any other name.... 770, 1001, Bikers'mate.
A rose by any other name.... 770, 1001, Bikers'mate.
Emoto
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I spoke with Garmin customer support on the phone the other day and one of the questions I asked was whether there would be a non-BMW Garmin equivalent to the Nav V. Although I take the response with skepticism, they told me that there would not, that BMW had paid to have this engineered to their specifications.
My guess would be that if this is true, that it will only be true for some contractually agreed upon time period and after that time, Garmin will release their own. That is just a guess, though.
My guess would be that if this is true, that it will only be true for some contractually agreed upon time period and after that time, Garmin will release their own. That is just a guess, though.
I had a similar conversation with Garmin support a few weeks ago.. I wanted extra mapping for Asia & they advised the standard maps if bought through Garmin would work in the Nav 5..
I since sold my 660 on here..
Bails
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Looks useless to me ! Not in English !
So how long before a bike is launched with a full built in display as the central focus in the way that many cars are going - aka BMW iDrive? Even the new Mini will get one in every version when launched in the spring.
There is a bit more room on a car than the average bike, especially a naked or unfaired vehicle like the 1200 GS.
The 1600, with its large dash, is integral (for want of a better word) or very nearly, as it is I believe on some Hondas and HD's.
There is no great harm in making it integral; insert a simple SIM card for software updates and the like or use a Smartphone. Importing routes? Drop them in via a memory stick, patch them across from a laptop or Smartphone. The advantage of going integral is that you could up the memory and processing power. The screen could be a simple screen (rather as it is on BMW's car), the brain could be anywhere, just as the radio is on the 1600, away under the seat. You could run internet connection and do just about anything you like.
The 1600, with its large dash, is integral (for want of a better word) or very nearly, as it is I believe on some Hondas and HD's.
There is no great harm in making it integral; insert a simple SIM card for software updates and the like or use a Smartphone. Importing routes? Drop them in via a memory stick, patch them across from a laptop or Smartphone. The advantage of going integral is that you could up the memory and processing power. The screen could be a simple screen (rather as it is on BMW's car), the brain could be anywhere, just as the radio is on the 1600, away under the seat. You could run internet connection and do just about anything you like.
jonnyp
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Can you imagine a GS with an integrated module like that..... It would kill off this site for starters......
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