BMW Service or home service?

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My GS12 is a May 05 model. Clearly out of warranty. Following last years ridiculously expensive 12000mile/2 year service costs i'm considering servicing it myself from now on. Hideous mortgage and 3 small kids influencing my consideration.....
My main concern is the obvious if something serious fails i will have very little if any come back regarding a good will gesture from BMW. And of course a service book not fully stamped when/if i come to sell.
Advantages are huge savings on servicing would if the unfortunate was to happen help to fund the cost of repair.....
I'm not sure, what do you guys think?
 
The older the bike the less people care about 'fully stamped' and the money saved will more than offset the 'reduction' in saleable value.

I will definately service my own - in some cases you may even do a better job and take morer care ('cos it is your bike).

I have never had a problem selling a car/bike that I have serviced myself - peopole just look in my garage, see my tools and realise exactly what I can do.

Obviously a new bike is a different matter.

karl
 
I allways service my own,I tend to do it to a better standard, like changing things that ar bi annual, annually, but I have little choice, my nearest dealer, is around 100 miles away, if worse comes, I will either do the repairs myself, or get a decent mechanic to do,even if the manufacturer gives the parts free, the franchised dealer, will still charge a fortune to fit the parts, keep well documented records, of what has been done, I have a less complicated 1100 and 1150 though :D
 
When you consider what dealers charge for servicing it's incredible what you can save doing it yourself, plus it gives a better understanding of your vehicle and you form more of a bond with it. Even if you consider the cost of buying decent tools and a manual you will be quids in, especially over a few years. My GS1150 is the only bike that I have been unable to do the brake bleed on due to the servo abs, but I hope to overcome that problem soon.

As a result of servicing my own bikes (except when under warranty) over the last 30 years I've built up a lot of confidence to tackle most jobs and gained a substantial amount of knowledge, and aquired all sorts of tools and equipment. my garage now houses a lathe (I'm not very good on it, but luckily have a mate who's an engineer who does the biz with it) a hydraulic press, stand drill, grinding wheels, hydraulic lift bench, shot blast cabinet, remote fuel tank, plus various diagnostic stuff. Servicing my own vehicles has given me the confidence to do several ground up restorations on various bikes.

My missus wishes I was as enthusiastic with decorating, plumbing and woodwork :D
 
I'll be due a 12k service very soon - how much are we talking about from a dealer? Is it worth calling round dealers for a price compraison or are BMW standard?
 
Obviously a new bike is a different matter.
I've serviced my HP myself from new. Full consent from dealer (I buy all service items from them - so at least there's a record).
But I do plug into their diagnostic machine thingamydoda every 6000 miles.
Hasn't affected the few warranty issues (suspension, SHBs) at all.

You should only do work on your own bike if you are confident in your own abilities though :augie
 
I'll be due a 12k service very soon - how much are we talking about from a dealer? Is it worth calling round dealers for a price compraison or are BMW standard?

I found that by phoning just 2 BMW dealers the price varied by £40 for the same thing (6k service and annual Inspection). The cheaper included pick-up which is £25 while with the other it is free......

Mind you.. its booked in to be done in a couple of weeks time...it will be interesting to see exactly what it costs me when its actually done!!!!
 
I'll be due a 12k service very soon - how much are we talking about from a dealer? Is it worth calling round dealers for a price compraison or are BMW standard?

I think you will find the prices are fixed.

I just had a 12K and 2yr service combined and also new front brake pads.

£450

Not impressed.

I wonder if had asked to part/ex the bike would it have been worth £450 less without the service!!!
 
I think you will find the prices are fixed.

I just had a 12K and 2yr service combined and also new front brake pads.

£450

Thanks. Do you know what the split was - I only need the 12k one (I hope)?
 
what does the 18,000 mile service involve cos mine is due in about 3,000 miles and fancy doing it myself :blast


Just had my 1200 GS Adventure serviced at 18,000- £250 plus £25 loan bike insurance (12GSA with ESA,ASC,ABS,ETC) By Vines Guildford

The bike had oil change and fiter plus adjustments etc.......came back as new-nice feel to clutch and throttle response.

Really noticed the difference- the bike came back sparkly clean as a bonus!:bounce1
 
I think you will find the prices are fixed.

You might well be right, but if you are its an illegal practise. Not that the OFT will be much of a help in sorting it out.
 
Hi Guys

A lot of this will depend upon your attitude to things but this is my own experience. As with most people when the vehicle is new and within a warranty period I will have it serviced as per 'manufacturers specifications' but not necessarily by the franchised dealer. This is all that is required to ensure that the warranty remains valid under the EU directive. Depending upon the actual dealer depends whether they get my business or if I use a local independent, who are without exception cheaper in my experience. But a bit like the bargains you strike up on the intial purchase of the vehicle the same can be so at the dealership for servicing, it is a question of asking and negoitiating.

My 05 GS was out of warranty and I had it serviced by Mark Holden in Bromley who was a former workshop mechanic in both BM and Honda dealerships. Recently I had the full three year full jobby done, the full works, and saw change from £200 on that occasion. It too came back with a full report and felt like a new bike with throttle, clutch and gears 'just so' and lots of little details attended to, you can tell it had had a good job done.

Even when I found that the rear seal had gone I got BMW to fix it as a good will gesture and the form that the dealer submitted had a question - has the bike been regularly serviced?- which of course it had been. There were no additional issues not even the fact that I had bought it second hand the dealers knew the fault and pushed BM to stump up which they did (Thanks Coopers TW).

Equally as important was when I was looking at trading the bike in for a new 08 model when I was asked if it had a FSH and I replied yes, it was serviced by Mark Holden, not only did the dealer know him and his work, but it made no difference to the trade in value, as they were going to be happy putting the bike on their approved scheme. In the event the bike was such a nice example that I had no trouble shifting it in the middle of winter for far more than the trade in value with the buyer knowing the bike was not BMW dealer serviced.

Recently my car an Audi, was due for a service and up until now I have managed to get good deals on servicing through the dealer, but I always ask for a 'quote' not an estimate as you always should. As with the BMW bike dealers they are very reluctant to give a quote they prefer to fob you off with 'about so much', then hit you with a big bill. When I asked this time I was given the fob off so did not book, later I got a call from the dealership reminding me that a service was due etc, and I told them they were not getting my business as they had failed to quote me the 'workshop time' and quote me the price.

Hey presto, a firm quote and a reduced rate was offered to me which I then accepted. As with all of this make sure they have to call first to authorize if additional work is required over the service you have been quoted for, later on they they then tried to hit me for £70 to replace 'a rubber thingy on the end of the metal shaft that drives the wheel sir', once I explained that I knew all of the component parts of the drive shaft and I would be able to get it done locally for a pint they said £25 then?, but ended up doing it for free! So over the four years this car has cost £150 a year to service which has been price worth it to me to keep the Audi FSH.

When I asked at the various BMW dealerships for a quote for the 05 GS bike service I was fobbed off and found it hard for them to commit to a price, I even asked Brain Giles at Pembury for a quote but he did not give me one and then said he would call me back with one, which he didn't, so I went back to Mark in Bromley. This was slightly dissapointing as I have heard good things about Brian and was keen to try him but he didn't want the business obviously. So it can be OK to keep it franchised dealer serviced if you are shrewd and it need not cost an excessive amount but you have to ask and be insistant. But with the BM bike I found it difficult, so after warranty opted to go independent route and it worked out fine, there are plenty of good ones out there!

And with the New 08 GS it will be into the dealers soon for its first service at a price that was negotiated as at the time of the sale so it featured in the cost comparision when I deciding who was going to give me a good deal on the new bike. After that I am not sure, it will be cheaper to service than the Servo braked models, as the brakes will be easier to do and take less workshop time, but I don't fancy paying £450 a throw - I could service my car for years and years for that much!

Hope this helps a bit.

JH:thumb
 
I have recently bought a 1200 gs 05 and would also like to do a bit more on the bike especially changing the front /rear brake pads etc. I fitted engine crash bars the other week but I'm not sure I would tackle a full service. I'm sure all these jobs are possible, and its like everything in life, its easy once you have done it. I have found a local service place near me in Bromley, Mark Holden Motorcycles who specialises in BMW motorbikes and has a very good reputation at a good price. So he will be my first port of call for the 36000 service and as I will be now keeping the bike for a good few years (can't justify to the wife any more changing bikes) will try and do as much as possible on the bike myself. I still have a one year warranty with the bike but i do not intend to pay their service costs! Like others, I have a mortgage and 3 teenagers :)
 
Blimy JH I had no sooner finished my reply re Mark Holden, when I looked up and saw your reply on the same subject, is that telepathy or what :) Spooky eh
 
Oil and filter changes, gearbox oil, air filter changes, valve clearances, brake pads - I'll do these myself now that warranty is passed. It might take me a lot longer than a BMW mechanic, but I save time riding to/from the garage. Anyway, I'm in no hurry. And I'm damn sure I take a lot more care because it's my bike and because I haven't got the next job waiting.

Anything more complicated and it goes to an ex-BMW mechanic who does a great job (Brian Giles).
 
Hi Patboy

Yes, great minds obviously think alike!

But seriously Mark is a top bloke and the point in all of this for me is that whilst I can do all this stuff myself, at the moment it is easier for me to earn it at a better rate than I have to pay for someone to do it for me. Time is presently the most expensive and precious commodity for me with the usual work/life/family/riding bikes type balancing act that I have to do.

Now in a couple of years I plan to have much more time and will get back to the ultimate satisfaction of doing most of it myself knowing it was done as I wanted it to be done and enjoy doing it.

JH:bounce1
 


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