BMW TFT - is it too complicated?

Maybe not even five with heavy use.

What do you mean by heavy use? Touch screen/tft on the Lexus still works after 240000 miles. Unless you mean the weather will cause the damage?
 
Lots of dross posted here.
I started the TFT facebook page 3 years ago. 38K miles now with the TFT. Never had any connection issues..... And with the selection wheel, the vast majority of people say its the most intuitive. REF theft, don't fall for the scaremongering. I started a poll - Have you had your TFT stolen? (8K members)
No - 627
Stolen - 4
attempted - 0

https://www.facebook.com/groups/195190591351953
 
why not they have on cars?

I would have thought that the TFT screens in cars usually operate in a nice, smooth, climate controlled environment whereas motorcycles are generally more vibratory and subject to temperature extremes and are open to the elements. Yes, I know they “should” be able to withstand all of this, but when you have them being knocked out in some Far East sweat shop there are bound to be exceptions.
 
I would have thought that the TFT screens in cars usually operate in a nice, smooth, climate controlled environment whereas motorcycles are generally more vibratory and subject to temperature extremes and are open to the elements. Yes, I know they “should” be able to withstand all of this, but when you have them being knocked out in some Far East sweat shop there are bound to be exceptions.

Where do you think the car ones are made.

It’s only the seals that will be an issue over time. The tft will last along time
 
This thread must be a wind up.

I mean, how hard can it be, symbols on the screen match symbols on the Menu rocker button. Arrows to the left or right refer to the rocking the Wheel.

Anyone with more than two cells up there will figure this out in no time.

So.... A wind up :aidan
 
This thread must be a wind up.

I mean, how hard can it be, symbols on the screen match symbols on the Menu rocker button. Arrows to the left or right refer to the rocking the Wheel.

Anyone with more than two cells up there will figure this out in no time.

So.... A wind up :aidan

No it’s not a wind up.

Of course, if you’re some kind of TFT savant (or blind BMW loyalist who won’t hear a word said against them) this stuff is simple. For the rest of us mortals, some systems are more intuitive than others.

My personal experience is that the BMW bike system is one of the less intuitive ones. It took me three days of pootling around to figure out 100% of the interface on my new Range Rover, which has infinitely more functionality than my 850GS. It’s taken me nine months to realise I understand less than half of the BMW interface. I now can’t be arsed figuring out how the rest of it works. Our washing machine is easier FFS!!

I am about to become the proud owner of both a BMW and a Ducati, both with TFTs. I like each bike for its own characteristics - that’s why I chose them.

One of the characteristics I like the BMW for least is its last generation human interface. It’s just badly thought through - like a hotel room where all the light switches are in the wrong place.

The Ducati has infinitely more adjustability in its menus and it’s all accessible to an idiot like me after a 30 minute test ride. Oh - and the display looks prettier and works better in direct sunlight too.

Outside of Bavaria the world has moved forward. Strangely enough it seems that one of the main centres of progress in the world of bike electronics is Bologna. Who ever would have thought it?

I’m just sayin’

Other opinions are available…


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I would have thought that the TFT screens in cars usually operate in a nice, smooth, climate controlled environment whereas motorcycles are generally more vibratory and subject to temperature extremes and are open to the elements. Yes, I know they “should” be able to withstand all of this, but when you have them being knocked out in some Far East sweat shop there are bound to be exceptions.

And not to mention the vibrations. That's the killer with most electronics. Luckily most BMW's only go up and down smooth motorways.

And also anything "Mottorrad" does not have the same design criteria as a car. Motorcycles are leisure vehicles. They're designed to be swapped every three years with a PCP. BMW know this and that's why they design obsolescence into them. Think about the history of BMW motorcycles and the electronic let downs. Switch gears, ring antennas, fuel pump controllers etc. And then there are software updates. Like with Iphones. There will come a day where BMW says "No longer supported.. Tough luck. Buy a new bike"


Where do you think the car ones are made.

It’s only the seals that will be an issue over time. The tft will last along time

They fail all the time. Just like any electronic device. You just don't hear about it because they're swapped under warranty and people don't like admitting that their £20,000 GS is more fragile than their owners on a GS forum :comfort :):thumb2
 
And not to mention the vibrations. That's the killer with most electronics. Luckily most BMW's only go up and down smooth motorways.

And also anything "Mottorrad" does not have the same design criteria as a car. Motorcycles are leisure vehicles. They're designed to be swapped every three years with a PCP. BMW know this and that's why they design obsolescence into them. Think about the history of BMW motorcycles and the electronic let downs. Switch gears, ring antennas, fuel pump controllers etc. And then there are software updates. Like with Iphones. There will come a day where BMW says "No longer supported.. Tough luck. Buy a new bike"




They fail all the time. Just like any electronic device. You just don't hear about it because they're swapped under warranty and people don't like admitting that their £20,000 GS is more fragile than their owners on a GS forum :comfort :):thumb2

actually I would think the opposite is true. The amount of posts on here about tiny little issues.

Best selling bike in the world for a reason.
 
And not to mention the vibrations. That's the killer with most electronics. Luckily most BMW's only go up and down smooth motorways.

And also anything "Mottorrad" does not have the same design criteria as a car. Motorcycles are leisure vehicles. They're designed to be swapped every three years with a PCP. BMW know this and that's why they design obsolescence into them. Think about the history of BMW motorcycles and the electronic let downs. Switch gears, ring antennas, fuel pump controllers etc. And then there are software updates. Like with Iphones. There will come a day where BMW says "No longer supported.. Tough luck. Buy a new bike"




They fail all the time. Just like any electronic device. You just don't hear about it because they're swapped under warranty and people don't like admitting that their £20,000 GS is more fragile than their owners on a GS forum :comfort :):thumb2

What a load of bollocks post. LCD/TFT screens have been out for years. All the other bike manufactures have similar problems with electronics/mechanics etc. Probably news to you, not all parts are made in house by BMW. The PC/smart device you are using now has to be update. Get a 5 year old bike, or one of those Indian made old British crap no update need it. The speedo on my old air cooled bike used to fail regularly, I haven't have a failure after that one in 25+ years.
£20000 for a GS? Base starts at £13k, if the Man wants to spunk out 20 large ones why is that bothering you? Where I am at the moment the basic 1250GS is £37000.
 
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They fail all the time. Just like any electronic device. You just don't hear about it because they're swapped under warranty and people don't like admitting that their £20,000 GS is more fragile than their owners on a GS forum :comfort :):thumb2

Realy? How many have failed on you?
 


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