Brake pad kit impossible to find

Lexman

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Hi,

okay so I went on a really good one day maintenance course at the BMW off road skills centre. I checked my pads on my GS, a 63 plate TE when I got back, like they showed us.

Noticed the rear pad was very worn and the retaining spring 'chatter' clip wasn't staying snug terribly well so I thought it would be relatively simple to go online and buy a rear pad and new clip. Not at all! I ordered a pad from Nippy Norman's but they sent the wrong one, I've sent them it back with one of the old pads to see if they can help. Didn't look like they do the 'chatter' clip. It looks like there should be a BMW pad kit that comes together with spare retaining 'chatter' clip as I saw a picture somewhere online, but can't actually find it for sale anywhere.

Cannot really find what I need/am looking for, a brembo rear pad and chatter clip like the ones that were on the bike originally, for sale online anywhere. I presume this is because BMW like to keep a hold over things like pads and I can understand that perhaps they prefer to discourage owners from tinkering with callipers and pads etc but as pad replacement is pretty straight forward I was imagining this would be easy to buy online.

Am I going to have to ring Cotswold Motored and say "can you sell me a rare brake pad and chatter clip?" and are they going to say 'you have to bring it in and we'll fit it'?!

All help gratefully received as ever,

Many thanks,
Alex
 
phone them and ask to buy the parts,but dont ask for a rare brake pad eh,why do you think they wont sell you the parts?,also you do mean pads plural instead of pad dont you please say you meant a pair of pads.
 
mrtee43 said:
Brake pads are available here :
https://motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/Parts.php?T=5&NU=15&M=36&Ct=HA&SbCt=BA_15_36_HA_25

As for the clip, I doubt that you need a new one, especially a 63 plate bike.
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Thanks for the link, I found this site but didn't find these items first time around. So in Brembo I have two options, carbon ceramic or sintered, sintered being marginally more expensive, what is the difference?

It's hard to explain but the clip is located correctly and there's a little lip on the calliper that looks like it is meant to keep the clip secure. The clip seems like it doesn't quite grip that lip like maybe it did when it was new. I don't feel this is too big a problem, of course it is secured anyway by the pads and the pads being secured by the pin.

Yes of course I meant both rear pads. They have worn evenly, though one has the grooves the other has worn the same amount but doesn't have the grooves...
 
I bought some carbon ceramic about a month ago which I seem to remember was the same as fitted previously by my dealer who replaced the original ones under warranty.
 
Lexman said:
Thanks for the link, I found this site but didn't find these items first time around. So in Brembo I have two options, carbon ceramic or sintered, sintered being marginally more expensive, what is the difference?
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I bought a pair of the Brembo sintered ones to replace a pair of OEM rear pads that has less than 3.5K miles on them and were worn out. As I understand it, the sintered ones are harder and will be more abrasive on the rear disc. They'll last longer than the carbon ceramic ones but will eat the disc more quickly.
 
Try realoem.com its a full bmw parts site, my local dealer said its easier for you to look at what you want and get right part number, all the kit is on there!
 
I get the impression you are inexperienced in DIY repairs. Its good you want to learn to do stuff yourself but as you're starting with brakes, I urge you to get someone who knows what they're doing to assist/supervise with the job.

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Watty100 said:
I get the impression you are inexperienced in DIY repairs. Its good you want to learn to do stuff yourself but as you're starting with brakes, I urge you to get someone who knows what they're doing to assist/supervise with the job.

That's great advice, don't want to patronise you but brakes are too important to take any chances with.
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A picture of the clip in position may help,
The locking pin clips appear loose as they are stopping the pin sliding out,
I got some spare ebc sintered pads off ebay cheaply, never had issues with them wearing discs,
Be aware the pads have very little material from new,
Bearing in mind you are a novice , i have simplified measuring the pads,
as a measure place a 50p coin on the disc and slide up to the brake pad , if it fits between disc and backing both sides you have plenty of wear left, if not try a 10 p coin if its a tight fit that will indicate the need to order a spare set and monitor regularly,
This can be done with the bike intact , no dismantling required,
Replacing pads can be done with no tools ,i carry a spare set on euro trips,
As mentioned by others is safety,, be carefull ,,thats why i simplified measuring as you may not need to replace the pads yet,,and gain more understanding /assistance with time to spare,
If you are struggling to understand this measurement it would be safer to have it done for you, Bmw parts are usually quite helpfull and print off a list if needed,
Not being condescending hopefully you will have done this job on the course,
Roamer,
 
Yes., only rears,,
first remove the retaining clips, push the pads up and pull /push the locking pin out ,
release the right side pad,but dont remove fully holding the left side in place ,
ease the pad out a bit and push towards the wheel to lever the caliper and pistons back fully, there isnt much travel,
Fit right side pad first and slide the pin through halfway pushing up on pad against rattle spring clip, this holds the pad,
Fit the left and check clip holes are vertical and push pin through while pushing pad up , fit locking clips and pump pedal, all done with no tools ,
i do service my brakes anually and have done this, as a just in case,,
As a roadside or home fix its do able,, it might help if someone gets stuck,,
Cheers Roamer
 
ChazzyB said:
Did you mean that?
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The rear pads can of course be checked/replaced without tools on this model, provided nothing is seized, though a pair of pincer pliers are of course useful to get the pin out. Only the front pads require knowledge of NM settings and the correct tools.

The course I went on was taught by Paris Dakar racer Simon Pavey and his mechanic. Everything was explained very well. Of course no one should ever take any chances with brakes but in my opinion checking/replacing the front and rear pads are relatively simple tasks if carried out carefully and methodically. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who hasn't had this taught to them by a qualified mechanic though.

Thanks for all the comments and feedback, all very informative and useful.
 
Lexman said:
The rear pads can of course be checked/replaced without tools on this model, provided nothing is seized, though a pair of pincer pliers are of course useful to get the pin out. Only the front pads require knowledge of NM settings and the correct tools.
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Fair enough, though I remove the caliper so I can clean the pistons thoroughly before I push them back.
 
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