Braking distance comparison of 12GS with other brands

[rom]

There are many threads talking about how the servo assisted ABS brake of the 12GS performs. Some riders really hate the system while others adore it. Unfortunately, I am one of the latter recently moving up from the 11GS.

I am just curious whether there has been any test performed by any bike magazines on the braking performance of various bikes comparing it with the 12GS. I am keen to know data like 100-0, 60-0.

Also, does anyone know with servo assisted linked brake, what percentage of braking force is applied to the front and rear when hand brake is applied? 70/30, 60/40 or does this vary with riding conditions?
Thank you for your contribution

 

[GSmonkey]

Some riders really hate the system while others adore it. Unfortunately, I am one of the latter recently moving up from the 11GS.

So unfortunately you adore it???

Anyhow, I thought that there was a test done in Bike or Ride magazine where the R12 outbraked a GSX-R1000 & R1......can't ask for more than that.

Not quite sure what the split is front/rear, but its seemed OK to me up to now.

 

[TerryM]

I also like it, the confidence comparison with my other toys on wet and dirty roads is magic. And if MotoGP riders can tolerate traction control my ego can accept abs. My riding is 99.99% tarmac and if I found myself continually braking so hard as to switch into active abs I would think very hard about my deteriorating riding style.

There is no fixed split as such as the abs is monitoring the rotation of the wheels and trying to just keep them turning while braking each individually as hard as possible in proportion to your manual input. Certainly the software has a small fudge factor to avoid continual life on the edge of grip, which is why, I suppose, some expert riders switch it off and use human software only. Wish they would sell me a bootleg copy! I am not refering to offroad here.

The weight of course transfers to the front somewhat, and so more braking is applied there, just as on none abs. But crucially it then reduces rear wheel braking to a safe level, without your having direct intervention, and continually readjusts both front and rear until you stop braking or come to a halt.

Wish we had had it when I were a lad.

 

[GSmonkey]

Check out these brake test results against pretty stiff competition (make sure if you've got a mate on a fireblade he rides in front of you!!):

 

[alecmuffett]

Check out these brake test results against pretty stiff competition (make sure if you've got a mate on a fireblade he rides in front of you!!):

Hiya! Can I ask where you get the figures from? Not that I am doubting, but I'm sure that if I tell my made that I should be able to out-brake his 'Blade, I had better be in a position to cite references.

 

[GSmonkey]

Its either September or October BIKE magazine. I wouldn't brag too much though, as he may care to mention this:

 

[John Armstrong]

From the test in Bike for the fleet of long term test (=thrash) bikes.

 

[GSmonkey]

There's also this:

 

[Mouse]

In a test I did, 40mph to stoppped took about 14 yards. Which, for reference, is half what the highway code says.

 

[rom]

Impressive stopping figures for the 12GS I would say. I would be very careful if I use braking to its full potential when riding in group or if I ride in front of other vehicles. You could be successful by not hitting what is in front of you but ending up getting rear-ended by others. The consequence could be just as bad.

 

[GSmonkey]

Impressive stopping figures for the 12GS I would say. I would be very careful if I use braking to its full potential when riding in group or if I ride in front of other vehicles. You could be successful by not hitting what is in front of you but ending up getting rear-ended by others. The consequence could be just as bad.

Thats why I said, if you've got a mate on a fireblade, make sure he rides in front. There again, based upon the acceleration figures, he would be in front wouldn't he!!???

 

[Russ]

This goes to prove my theory based on experience that the 12 is just as fast as a sports 600, thus the pour soul on their 636R last week, and the other bloke on his GSXR6 just couldn't shake the mighty 1200GS on the motorway

oh what fun

 

[Russ]

BTW does the article say what tyres the GS was on for the brake test?

 

[GSmonkey]

This goes to prove my theory based on experience that the 12 is just as fast as a sports 600, thus the pour soul on their 636R last week, and the other bloke on his GSXR6 just couldn't shake the mighty 1200GS on the motorway

oh what fun

I've ridden a sports 600 following an 1150 and to be honest you've got to try real hard to get past. Its also quite demoralising as the GS just pulls away on torque and your left on the 600 either snicking it down a gear which takes time, or waiting for the top end rush to come. During this period, the GS has normally made a few yards.

But I'm happy with the performance of a 600cc and the brakes of a 1000cc, better than the other way round IMHO.

 

[Dave Price]

I would comment that the relatively small difference in braking performance figures is insignificant, compared with the distance you will travel, when thinking about the need to brake.

 

[GSmonkey]

You'll have 3 extra seconds to think "shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit" on the blade. You could have put 12GS on the sidestand and got off in that time!!!!!

 

[Mouse]

Or accelerated to about 50mph to get out of the way of the fireblade that's about to take you roughly from behind.

 

[Arthurwg]

Yes, the brakes work wonderfully, when they are working. Just be sure that the battery connections are tight or you may find yourself without servos.

 

[Kropotkin]

Did they also have braking distances? These can be different to braking times, and a shorter braking time is not necessarily a shorter braking distance. (It has to do with deceleration).

I'd be interested in seeing the braking distances.

 

[Le singe]

They're journos,don't expect all the facts,they may distort the desired outcome!