Buying advice wanted please

snerkler

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Hi,
I'm considering buying a R1200GS Adventure and want some advice please. If you bear with me I'll give you a bit of my background and my needs and so that you can give some good advice for me.

I'm 32 and I've been riding for only 4.5 years, although I've had numerous bikes. I initially had a Yamaha FZ6, but only kept it for 3 months (3500 miles) as I quickly found it underpowered. I then traded it in for a 1050 Sprint ST. As great as this bike was I found that on longer journeys it was a little too small for me and I got a lot of knee pain (I'm 6'4"and 'ahem' 18 stone). I had inspirations of doing a Ewan and Charlie and was very keen on getting a 1200 GSA. I took it for a test ride and have to say I was disappointed as found the suspension too wallowy, and felt a little like I was on a rocking horse under acceleration and braking. I then took out the GS and really liked it and so bought one. I have to say I did really like the bike but for one thing, I couldn't get comfy on it, which is strange considering they were built for comfort. I seemed to be sat over the pin that fastened the seat down, and gel inserts or extra padding didn't seem to help. It got to the stage where I would get a lot of pins and needles and pain so the bike had to go, begrudgingly I might add.
At this stage the Tiger 1050 was released, and it fit the bill brilliantly. It did everything the GS did, but was more comfortable and a bit more lively. I still have this bike, and am happy with it. I never thought about changing it until I spoke to a BMW salesman I know who told me about the ESA on the latest models of the GSA, and that you can set the suspension to stop it from wallowing. It then got the cogs working and I started thinking "could the bike I always wanted now be the bike for me?"
So the question is, does the ESA really make a lot of difference and stop the bike from wallowing if you set it up right (eg sport road setting), or is it still noticeable? And would I be wise in swapping from the Tiger 1050 to a new GSA with the DOHC and extra 10bhp? I know this is a GS forum so opinions may be slightly biased, and I know ultimately I'll have to try it out for myself, but if anyone would be willing to share their opinion in the meantime it would be greatly apprecaited.

Cheers.

P.S. If anyone can point me in the direction of some good photos of the new yellow GSA I'd really apprecite it. I've got a few of the grey one, but only the one of the yellow from the BMW website
 
Welcome Snerkler, I hope you get a reply from one of the many 1200-lads about. Now dip into your pocket & pluck £12 out ;)

The forums look much more normal with been a member my friend; & you could post a link to this thread into the R1200 section bud.

Paddy *Happy F8GS Owner* :rob

ps: Lots of other motorcyclists are about on here we are all bikers!
 
Welcome!
Doesn't the adventure have longer travel suspension by design so you can go have adventures on it? (cue "what is an adventure bike" debate :blast )
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a bit softer than the standard GS. Plus thought the whole point of Telelever was intended to minimise dive under braking... Maybe you rode a knackered one?? ;)

It all adds to the character of the bike anyway!

Rich
(1200 non-ESA GSA owner :thumb )
 
If you can try a 12, either adv or "sport" model ;) with an uprated rear shock. I got a WP spin for mine and the biggest difference I found is when I had a 12 stone pillion, no wallow and a much much better ride. I wouldn`t go for the ESA myself just uprate the suspension.
 
What's it going to cost you to find out if the GS is for you? You say you like the 1050 Triumph and it fits the bill. How much better is the GS? Why not hang on until the GS has bedded in a bit and the possible problems come to light before dropping the Triumph and chucking away a fortune in depreciation.

Sorry with me it's money not fancy gizmos and promised improvements. The Triumph is a superb bike £ for £.
 
What's it going to cost you to find out if the GS is for you? .

Hopefully nothing, as I'll have an extended test ride before I decide. I just wanted a heads up really before I get the chance to try it out, and also wondered if there were any obvious pitfalls I'd overlooked?
 
Welcome!
Doesn't the adventure have longer travel suspension by design so you can go have adventures on it? (cue "what is an adventure bike" debate :blast )

Haha, true, but I wondered how much difference the ESA made on the 'hardest' setting over the GSA I tried 3-4 years ago?

It's doubtful it will be an off-road adventure bike for me I'm afriad. The reason I'm considering the GSA over the GS though is due to the comfort (as mentioned before I had a GS and found it uncomfortable), and also the presence of the bike.
I guess my last comment will open up another debate about what's important in a bike lol. For me, of course the riding experience is by far the main consideration, but ultimately it is the overall 'package' as well, ie looks, character, how the bike makes you feel etc
 
Had a K1200GT-SE with ESA, an R1200GSA without ESA and now on an R1200RT-SE with ESA and ..... to be honest think it's another very, very, very expensive thing to f*ck up.
Never missed it on GSA and did plenty of 2-up EU miles and plenty of solo miles. Just used to turn the black thingy whatsits name under seat and that usually helped.

Had a Varadero, ZZR1100, VFR800, Pan 1300, Bandit 1200, GS1400, Tuono, ..... all without ESA and never noticed any problems.

If you can't stop the wallowing with the normal pre-load, some fancy electronics aren't going to to it. It's still the same basic shock whichever system ... it just costs €2,000 to replace at each end :eek:

PS: Swopped the GSA because it was shite for 2-up touring - but will get another when SWMBO retires from back seat.
 
Does anyone know what's happened to this thread? I couldn't access it for ages, and now some of the posts have vanished? :confused:
 


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