Cant get front seat off Help

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First time I have ever had a bike serviced at a dealers in 30 years of motorcycling

took my 2010 gsa in for its 6000 mile service on Wednesday, not yet used to BMW prices

today I noticed my homemade interference fit front wheel spindle tool is no longer fitted on the front wheel (been there for 5000 miles was there a week earlier when i changed the front tyre over)

so i thought they must have removed it and placed it under the seat

cant for the life of me turn the key more than 10 degs to remove the front seat, back seat yes

before I ring up to ask them to sort it, I presume they would have removed the seat to connect into the ecu socket to read codes and balance the TPS

prefer not to do a 50 mile round trip if there is an easy way to get around this problem

any help ta in advance
 
I assume you know you have to take the back seat off before the front seat will come off?

:beerjug:
 
Try turning the key as far as it will go without too much force.
Then strike the back of the front seat fairly smartly with your hand while still keeping light pressure on the key.
Works for me.
 
Press down on the back of the front seat where the catch is as you turn the key, should do it.
 
SMB said:
Try turning the key as far as it will go without too much force.
Then strike the back of the front seat fairly smartly with your hand while still keeping light pressure on the key.
Works for me.
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ta for the heads up, but no luck
 
Sounds like something stuck in the mech of the seat lock under the seat?
 
Ring the dealer and ask, it should be removed as you said for the check.

If they have removed the seat and now it's jammed it sounds like it was their fault so rather than bend your key etc which won't be their fault contact them.
 
davidblythe said:
First time I have ever had a bike serviced at a dealers in 30 years of motorcycling

took my 2010 gsa in for its 6000 mile service on Wednesday, not yet used to BMW prices

today I noticed my homemade interference fit front wheel spindle tool is no longer fitted on the front wheel (been there for 5000 miles was there a week earlier when i changed the front tyre over)

so i thought they must have removed it and placed it under the seat

cant for the life of me turn the key more than 10 degs to remove the front seat, back seat yes

before I ring up to ask them to sort it, I presume they would have removed the seat to connect into the ecu socket to read codes and balance the TPS

prefer not to do a 50 mile round trip if there is an easy way to get around this problem

any help ta in advance
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Take back seat off, then whilst keeping slight pressure on turning key
(Anti Clockwise)
karate chop the front riders seat quite hard in the middle and it should pop up!

Big D :)
 
For some reason the front section can be a bugger to get off on a lot of 1200's - Don't be gentle turning the key (anti-clockwise for the front section) and they do eventually come off.
 
Remove front seat

Had same with mine remove black undertray lining rear wheel arch this is done by removig screws that hold number plate holder onto the undertary and I think two other screws about two thirds of way towards suspension side of undertray. You will need to support the tray once removed. You should then be able to remove what ever is obstructing you turning the key good luck
 
I had a similar problem the last time I took the seat off, I managed in the end though, here's how.

1. Turn the key very slowly to the left, while pressing down firmly on the back of the seat, give it a little shake and lift.
2. Then go and get a beer.
3. Follow the same procedure as it will surely work once a beer has been drunk.
4. Go and get another beer.
5. Smoke cigarette (if a non-smoker, start).
6. Swear a little bit.
7. Turn the key to the left 7 times, with increasing strength, start shaking the seat, shout "come on you f*cking thing, what's wrong with you, are you doing this to piss me off?!".
8. Smoke another cigarette while staring at the seat and planning which bike you will buy next.
9. Turn the key to the left and thump the seat, hard, no....harder, kick the back wheel.
10. Give up.
11. Do it again.
12. Keep lifting the edge of the seat, thinking you might be able to see what the problem is.
13. Do this a further 23 times before admitting to yourself you can't see anything.
14. Put a plaster on your grazed knuckles.
15. Decide you don't care if you break the seat, the bike, or the arm of the bloke who's been laughing at you for the last 10 minutes, summon the strength of a thousand Incredible Hulks, turn the key to the left, and lift the seat with afforementioned strength.
16. Throw removed seat to the ground and dance around it, point at it and ask it "who's your daddy?!".
17. Thank me for providing this guide to removing a stubborn front seat.
 
LOL...+1 to the above. You are not alone.

Regularly spent 20 mins getting the blighter off - but think I have the knack now.

It seems like a design fault - the locating rail underneath the seatpad fits into a latch on the frame, but when it's in there, it's such a tight fit that it stops the latch from opening fully with the key.

So pushing down on top of the back surface of the front seat pushes the rail away from the latch slightly, & gives it a bit of clearance so you can turn the latch fully with the key...although this actually doesn't work for me.

The only thing that works regularly for me is to turn the key as far as it will easily go anticlockwise (about 1/3 of the way on my bike), so the latch is opened a bit, and keep the pressure on, whilst applying a smart thump to the back of the seat pad (the back vertical rim, not the top surface) to shove the seatpad forward towards the tank. This pushes the seat rail past the latch, and your pressure on the key means that the latch isn't fully closed while you make the attempt.

HTH - Good luck, and let us know how you get on with refitting the seat again afterwards.

Once you've got the knack, you can stop and help every 1200 owner you see by the side of the road with the pillion seatpad on the verge, and apparently trying to lift their bike off the ground by the front seat.
 
Well if it makes you feel any better..... mine comes off a piece of piss. Bloody uncomfortable to sit on though....
 
Pip_UK said:
LOL...+1 to the above. You are not alone.

Regularly spent 20 mins getting the blighter off - but think I have the knack now.

It seems like a design fault - the locating rail underneath the seatpad fits into a latch on the frame, but when it's in there, it's such a tight fit that it stops the latch from opening fully with the key.

So pushing down on top of the back surface of the front seat pushes the rail away from the latch slightly, & gives it a bit of clearance so you can turn the latch fully with the key...although this actually doesn't work for me.

The only thing that works regularly for me is to turn the key as far as it will easily go anticlockwise (about 1/3 of the way on my bike), so the latch is opened a bit, and keep the pressure on, whilst applying a smart thump to the back of the seat pad (the back vertical rim, not the top surface) to shove the seatpad forward towards the tank. This pushes the seat rail past the latch, and your pressure on the key means that the latch isn't fully closed while you make the attempt.

HTH - Good luck, and let us know how you get on with refitting the seat again afterwards.

Once you've got the knack, you can stop and help every 1200 owner you see by the side of the road with the pillion seatpad on the verge, and apparently trying to lift their bike off the ground by the front seat.
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:thumb
this is correct .it is the only way to get the bl***y thing off
this post should be sent to BEEEMER and put in to owners manual
 
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