Car Engine Oil on GSA1200?

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Hi all,
I just gotten ownership of a 4 months old GSA. It has done 5000km and i am planning to prepare for the oil change soon.

I have a carton of engine oil, 10W-40 SM grade fully syn for my car and wonder if i could use them on the GSA since it is using dry clutch as i usually buy in bulk of a few cartons?

Does anyone has the typical characteristic of the Castrol approved lube oil, Power 1 Racing 10W-50 or the Actevo 20W-50? I would like to make a comparison with the car engine oil that i planned to use...

Cheers!
Dylan
 
Read the owners manual perhaps and use the recommended oil?? :augie
 
You do not have to use bike-specific oil in a dry-plate clutch GS. But make sure that all the other characteristics of the oil are as specified (or thereabouts).

Greg
 
4 Months old means 20 Months warranty left, worth sticking to manufacturers guidelines for now.
 
As of 2011 BMW motorrad and their dealers recommended oil for a DOHC GS/GSA is Castrol Power 1 Racing 10w-50 Fully Synthetic. I would stick with this as your bike's still covered by warranty.
 
As per your question of comparison

CASTROL POWER 1 RACING 4T
10W-50
Features
Fully synthetic 4-stroke motorcycle engine oil
Trizone Technology™
Tested to the extreme of temperature and engine conditions
Extreme high temperature air-cooled and water-cooled
engine performance
Enhanced throttle response for faster acceleration
Excellent high speed oil consumption control and volatility
Excellent shear stability to prevent viscosity break down
Complies with requirements of catalyst equipped engines
Ultimate Performance for Extreme Riding on road and track
Devoloped for moderm BMW models.

Castrol Power 1 Racing 4T employs the very latest Trizone Technology™ that gives optimum protection to the engine, clutch and gears even under the most arduous conditions, including sustained operations at high rpm.

Specifications JASO MA-2 API SL

The JASO MA and MB friction classifications now have maximum and minimum limits and the JASO MA category has been subdivided into two new classifications, JASO MA1 and MA2, which allows further differentiation. It is expected that many PCMOs will be categorised as JASO MA1, whereas oils specifically formulated for four-stroke motorcycle use will be categorised as JASO MA2. Oils formulated to meet JASO MB must typically contain high levels of friction modifiers to significantly alter their friction properties.
The intention is that OEMs will be able to recommend JASO MA2 oils for optimum clutch

Q8 MOTO SBK Racing 10W-50
Q8 MOTO SBK Racing 10W-50 is a high performance, fully synthetic engine oil for use in motorcycles. It has been designed with race proven technology and is compatible with all wet clutch systems. Using the latest additive technology, Q8 MOTO SBK Racing 10W-50 meets the lates Japanese, American and European specifications. It is an extreme high performance four stroke motorcycle engine oil designed for use in all riding conditions including off-road and endurance. It is also recommended for the latest high performance multi valve engines with catalysts

Specifications API SL, JASO MA, ACEA A3

Best regards Stretch :)
 
Interesting topic. I'm suprised it's not been covered before. Well, you live and learn, don't you.
 
mercuri said:
Hi all,
I just gotten ownership of a 4 months old GSA. It has done 5000km and i am planning to prepare for the oil change soon.

I have a carton of engine oil, 10W-40 SM grade fully syn for my car and wonder if i could use them on the GSA since it is using dry clutch as i usually buy in bulk of a few cartons?

Does anyone has the typical characteristic of the Castrol approved lube oil, Power 1 Racing 10W-50 or the Actevo 20W-50? I would like to make a comparison with the car engine oil that i planned to use...

Cheers!
Dylan
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If specification on the carton meets the specification in the bike manual then yes, if not then no - simples!
 
snerkler said:
As of 2011 BMW motorrad and their dealers recommended oil for a DOHC GS/GSA is Castrol Power 1 Racing 10w-50 Fully Synthetic. I would stick with this as your bike's still covered by warranty.
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On BMW's website this very day - 2 choices available.

BMW Recommended oils

Ultimate Performance Power 1 Racing 10W-40


Trusted Protection Evo 20W-50

You pays your money, you takes your choice.
Personally, I happily use Evo 20W - 50
 
I use the old stuff that comes out of my Speed Triple in the GS then the stuff that comes out of the GS goes in the mower and the stuff that comes out of the mower I pour on my neighbours Leylandi :thumb2
 
Clearly every Main Dealer will take an oil sample and send it away for analysis prior to any engine warranty claims :augie

Wapping get it out :D
 
I have in the shed

2 part used cans of semi synthetic oil, in total around 5 litres. 2 different makes, around the same viscosity, I think, but have not checked. Bought in 2 different motor factors.
When I next change the oil in my 1200, I will use them, without looking or regard for what they are, because they are good enough & near enough.
Myke
 
Stretchamus said:
Wapping get it out :D
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Seen it.

Read it.

Just swinging it around,,,,,,

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You will notice that the cylinders are empty.

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself.....
 
Wapping said:
Seen it.

Read it.

Just swinging it around,,,,,,

44magnum-1.jpg


You will notice that the cylinders are empty.

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself.....
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What oil do you use on that there gun partner
 
Wapping said:
Seen it.

Read it.

Just swinging it around,,,,,,

44magnum-1.jpg


You will notice that the cylinders are empty.

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself.....
Click to expand...

Wouldn't argue with Model 629 Classic DX :augie
 
Me and some mates ran Happy Shopper vegetable oil in our strokers back in the 80's after some bike mag ran a tests of a load f 2-stroke oils and the 50p (or whatever it was back then) litre of veggy oil outperformed all but the most expensive (read 10 time as much) oils.

It worked great for many months and the bikes left an amazing scent behind them, eventually though performance slowed and we discovered the stuff gummed up badly leaving the underside of the pistons gunged up and exhausts blocked (Something the scientists did not test for)

The moral (if there is one) is that to a large degree oil is oil, new oil is always better than old, and new cheap oil is probably better than dirty old oil.

Most modern oils (even the cheap ones) are probably much better than yesteryears expensive oils, which lets not forget have seen many an engine beyond 100k.

I have a mate who worked in petro-chemical research who always pissed himself at the oil adverts, all these liquid engineering and magnatec bollox that was bandied about were his favourite, apparently sticking to metal surfaces is actually a normal property of any oil - anyone who has ever washed up an oily baking tray will know this.

More power, cooler running :blagblah :blagblah :blagblah

Sure synthetics are a bit better, mainly with regard to lasting longer, for those with nothing better to do:

http://www.motorcycleproject.com/motorcycle/text/motoroil.html

http://www.smartsynthetics.com/articles/motorcycle_oil_technical_facts.htm

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_use_synthetic_or_semi-synthetic_motor_oil
 
Nippy Normans supply Touratech, Wunderlich, Desert Fox and many other makes of accessories.
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