City Select Europe on a 2610

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I am considering buying CS Europe to use on my North Americas 2610 while in Europe. I have MetroGuide Europe and it works fine but doesn't support autorouting on the 2610. Does anyone have experience with this mix or using CS NA on an Atlantic basemap 2610? I am wondering what I will give up by not using CN Europe. Garmin only mentioned the differences in how round-abouts were (mis)handled. I wondered about routing options such a "Auto Arranging Waypoints" and "Custom Road Preferences". City Nav would be nice but $550 is over my budget. I will be taking a laptop so I will be able to build new routes but thought the CS would be nice. I won't be doing too much traveling in large urban areas. ( I understand the basemap limitations.)
 
Bill:

To the best of my knowledge, the only difference you would notice between CN and CS is that CN will give you slightly more detailed and precise text instructions concerning turns when you have a route active.

CN's written turn instruction data exactly matches the writing on the overhead signs or signs by the side of the road, if such signs are present. CS turn instruction data is more generic in nature. So, if you are driving along a road with a route active, and the route requires that you take the next exit, CN would probably display the message "Exit right to Paris Orly Terminal 1, exit 16", whereas CS would probably display the message "Exit next right, exit 16". This example assumes that the overhead or roadside sign reads "Paris Orly Terminal 1". A similar example would be at a route junction, if you are navigating towards 'Anytown', CN would display the text message "Turn left towards Smalltown and Anytown", if the overhead sign at the intersection read "Smalltown, Anytown", but CS would probably display "Turn left on Highway 24", if that happened to be the name of the highway to Anytown.

CN is also a bit more proactive about moving you into the appropriate lane position on multi-lane roads before you actually need to take an exit, and CN provides better guidance through multiple sequential interchanges (meaning, two or more exits within a short distance).

The map display from either CN or CS will be identical at all times, and the contents of the two CD's, so far as what you can see on the screen, points of interest, routing capabilities, etc., is absolutely identical.

It is a tough call whether to buy CS or CN. It is true that CN is a heck of a lot more expensive than CS. However, if the better quality route guidance saves you time, trouble, and frustration - especially if you are in a country that you are not familiar with, where you don't know the language and the road signs and driving practices are different from what you are used to - it might well justify the extra cost.

What countries do you plan to visit, and how long do you plan to be there? If, for example, you plan to spend two weeks in Spain or Portugal, and most of that time will be spent in rural areas, I'd recommend you get CS. However, if you plan to spend a month or so in urban areas of France, Germany or Switzerland, then I highly recommend you get CN.

If it helps - I spend a lot of time in Europe, so I bought CN a few years ago, even though I had to fork out USD $500 for it. But this spring, when I visited South Africa for 3 weeks, I was only prepared to buy CS, because I figured for 3 weeks, it wasn't worth the money to buy CN. Turned out the only product available for South Africa was CS anyway, but perhaps that will help you understand my logic.

PanEuropean

PS: Bill, please send me a private message through the PM feature of this BB - let me know your email address, I want to contact you off-line about this. I might have a no-cost fix for your problem, if you will be in Europe at a time when I won't be in Europe.
 
Just for the archival record: I had an off-line chat with Bill, and he plans to do recreational moto riding outside of the major cities. For this reason, I think CitySelect would be the best product for Bill to purchase. The biggest difference between CN and CS - the more detailed text guidance provided bu CN, especially on roads that have overhead signs on them - is not really significant for recreational touring on secondary and tertiary roads.

However, if in the future, someone is reading this thread and they are faced with a 4 or 6 week posting to a large European city (London, Paris, etc.) and will be spending most of their driving time in and around that big city - then I would suggest buying CN, even though it is a heck of a lot more money.

For someone from North America who is not familiar with Europe and has no experience driving in Europe - I would suggest you buy CN "for sure", regardless of where you plan to drive. You will need all the help you can get.

PanEuropean
 
Wrong side of the road

I agree that if you're on the wrong side of the road then the turn left in 100 feet etc is invaluable. I've just come back from a few days in the US with my US sourced 2610 and it really took the load off your mind having to cope with wrong side / automatic car / 30+ temperature / 11 hours to do < 2 hours flying / getting through Orlando etc.
 
What I find most valuable about the additional turn guidance data in CN is that it almost always exactly matches what is written on the overhead signs (even to the point of including errors in the overhead signs). So, if I am totally unfamiliar with a place, I just look for the sign that matches what I see whenever I press the 'SPEAK' button.

It does cost a heck of a lot of money to buy CN 'opposite side of the Atlantic' coverage, though. The unlock code technology used by Garmin supports the use of time-limited unlocks - it would be nice if they offered, for example, a 2 month licence of CN data for the 'opposite side' for $100 to serve the needs of GPSR owners who are taking vacations. My guess is that Garmin is probably in favour of doing this, but the owners of the cartography might not be too excited about it. We'll see what comes down the line in the future.

PanEuropean
 


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