Clacks , Crunches, or cant get Neutral

Not with your foot on the back brake :blast.[

Tell that to the poor sod who died in Suffolk last year when his clutch let go.

OK expert set yourself up just as you say clutch in in gear n get a mate to knock your clutch lever out. Then ask him t help you pick your bike up .

What damage did your bike sustain when you tried it?

Try the same thing in Neutral with just your Front brake held! GS has linked braking and anti dive front so the effect may not be as dramatic as for "normal" bikes, but the rear force causes the front to dive, potential to lose a hand off the front brake and end up being pushed into traffic..... Now try with the rear brake only applied.... See the difference!

Dramatic clutch failure must be a rare occurrence, with a likely hood for stalling if stood still and if a common issue, manufacturers would have fixed the problem or at the very least have a warning in the Rider Manual for the bike not to be held on the clutch at traffic lights.......Still looking in the new GS manual to find it!

Off road riding also necessitates stopping the bike in gear and forgetting Neutral exists, to not do so would be in itself unsafe and place added difficulty for riders in many difficult situations.
 
Not with your foot on the back brake :blast.[

Tell that to the poor sod who died in Suffolk last year when his clutch let go.

OK expert set yourself up just as you say clutch in in gear n get a mate to knock your clutch lever out. Then ask him t help you pick your bike up .

I dont know why you bother telling these guys anything They all seem to know better,coming of with shite like double clutch it ,Start bike in gear with clutch in,Its a new bike ffs, :rolleyes:
 
at what point will jeremy beadle pop in and tell us this threads a wind up ?:D:D:D:D:D
 
Spoke to my dealer today about the 'orrible embarrassing crunch into 1st and disappearing neutral which is very often due to loads of traffic lights in the city and am getting annoyed with using the bike in city traffic.
He said that BMW are aware of this clutch problem and have a team working on it.
I would issue a new master cylinder system at the lever with a larger diameter to release the clutch plates further and trade off some of the lever lightness. We'll see.
It's strange though that with all the pre-production testing done that at least one tester didn't say " Excuse me chaps, but I'm terribly sorry to have to tell you but the clutch needs fixing, its no jolly good like it is" or more likely "Fix the clutch or your name will go on the list". :ronno :D
 
think mine is fine

That's my de ja vous moment for the day :D

Hi All

My bike does clonk in to first gear but its not as bad as on the Harley ive just sold that would really let you know it was in gear. the trick on the harley was to give it a good rev first with the clutch lever pulled and then it would snick in to gear ok, but tried that on the GS and it makes no difference.

what ive noticed is that when the engine is still cold it goes in to gear really smoothly no clonk at all, then once its warmed up it clonks in but like I said only in first when initially starting off, all gear changes after are fine up and down.

Ive now covered 1200 miles and I think its the best bike ive ever owned it is used daily to commute to work and roll on the weekend so I can go out and play on it. :thumb2


Terry :D
 
Sure

That BMW are eternally grateful to all you engineers,test pilots and run to destruction types out there willing to take on the full R&D role at no minor expense :thumb2

Pity they were in such a rush to come to market hook in all the sports riders before another fleeting summer passed

Pass me another cynical pill this one is starting to wear off

Lot to be said for letting any new vehicle bed in before purchase
 
Hi All

My bike does clonk in to first gear but its not as bad as on the Harley ive just sold that would really let you know it was in gear. the trick on the harley was to give it a good rev first with the clutch lever pulled and then it would snick in to gear ok, but tried that on the GS and it makes no difference.

what ive noticed is that when the engine is still cold it goes in to gear really smoothly no clonk at all, then once its warmed up it clonks in but like I said only in first when initially starting off, all gear changes after are fine up and down.

Ive now covered 1200 miles and I think its the best bike ive ever owned it is used daily to commute to work and roll on the weekend so I can go out and play on it. :thumb2


Terry :D

Spot on description of my bike too, no gear box problems at all other than just the nasty clunk into first when the engine is warm, when stone cold no noise at all.
 
It's strange though that with all the pre-production testing done that at least one tester didn't say " Excuse me chaps, but I'm terribly sorry to have to tell you but the clutch needs fixing, its no jolly good like it is" or more likely "Fix the clutch or your name will go on the list". :ronno :D

I think that is because most, if not all testing /launches are done on nice open roads built for hooning or on nice trails, not stuck in heavy commuter traffic.
 
I think that is because most, if not all testing /launches are done on nice open roads built for hooning or on nice trails, not stuck in heavy commuter traffic.

Maybe, but this clunk into first is not a fault, loads of wet clutch chain driven Japanese sports bike do the same - it is just a new phenomenon to the GS which is why it is a bit alien.

I am sure that the designers were well aware of it but never saw it as a problem because it isn't.
 


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