david a hall
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It will ride up with wear sir.
Clacks , Crunches, or cant get Neutral
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It will ride up with wear sir.
good luck
Not sure I understand that either, it is either fixed or its not, good luck with it though hopefully it will do the trick.
Terry
Not sure I understand that either, it is either fixed or its not, good luck with it though hopefully it will do the trick.
Terry
Not sure I understand that either, it is either fixed or its not, good luck with it though hopefully it will do the trick.
Terry
He said something about letting the excess oil out of the clutch pack? I didn't think he knew what he was on about, he also said mine would be the first they would be doing and it would need an extended road test!!
I spoke to NOG the other day when I went in, and asked if they had anyone with problems, they said that on a couple of bikes they had reduced the fluid level in the clutch lever master, and the bikes were fine.
apart from that tey had not had anything major. mine has now done 6500 and is a lot smoother than when it was new.
be interesting to hear how yours is after the new rod, maybe they will fit a few and if it works will carry out a recall?
Terry
I asked about the clutch slave/master cylinder change and was told that was a campaign affecting earlier bikes and mine wasn't one of them.
Just the fact that there's confusion from BMW regarding how much oil should be in the sump doesn't instill confidence in the development process.
Just bought 6 month old GS LC and immediately noticed much improved gear change etc over my previous 4 valve R1200R. BUT after seeing engine temp hit 90+ I also found it difficult to find neutral when stationary.
Friendly Bahnstormers explicitly said only use Castrol Racing 4T 5W-40 and NOT 10W-50 which I used to use - clutch slip etc could be the result.
I notice on new oil it says 'co-engineered with BMW'. That may be a bit of marketing but it suggests to me that they must have got their heads together somewhere!
No bike is perfect but this one gets near to it (for me) so for now I shall live with the illusive neutral when stationary. Maybe knock it in to neutral at approaching lights when expecting significant delay.
Friendly Bahnstormers explicitly said only use Castrol Racing 4T 5W-40 and NOT 10W-50 which I used to use - clutch slip etc could be the result.
I notice on new oil it says 'co-engineered with BMW'. That may be a bit of marketing but it suggests to me that they must have got their heads together somewhere!
No bike is perfect but this one gets near to it (for me) so for now I shall live with the illusive neutral when stationary. Maybe knock it in to neutral at approaching lights when expecting significant delay.
Hamslay
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Does anyone know if the clutch and gearbox (and maybe shaft drive) come from the K1300?
My K1300S has always banged into first once it's warm. Once at a bike training day an instructor came over and asked about the bike. He said "I heard someone on a BMW from 100 yards away when you put it into 1st"!!
It's never bothered me apart from being a little embarrassing at the lights as the bike makes a massive clunk and jolts forward. I personally know of people with reasonable mileages on these clutches (50K+) without problems so it's never worried me.
Reading about the new GS I just wondered whether BMW saved a few quid and took the clutch, gearbox and left-hand shaft from the K series?
My K1300S has always banged into first once it's warm. Once at a bike training day an instructor came over and asked about the bike. He said "I heard someone on a BMW from 100 yards away when you put it into 1st"!!
It's never bothered me apart from being a little embarrassing at the lights as the bike makes a massive clunk and jolts forward. I personally know of people with reasonable mileages on these clutches (50K+) without problems so it's never worried me.
Reading about the new GS I just wondered whether BMW saved a few quid and took the clutch, gearbox and left-hand shaft from the K series?
GS_or_bust
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Just leave it in first and hit the kill switch at the lights. You can then let go of the levers and the gearbox acts like a parking brake. With the centrifugal cams, the bike starts really easily putting little load on the starter.
That's exactly what I do as well. Having said that, I don't have any problems selecting neutral - it's just easy and convenient.
After adjusting the gear lever to a higher position, all my grievances went away and the box seemed fine - until the other day when giving it large down the A422 to the M40. Changing up there was a horrible graunch from the box just as I was passing a car. They must have wondered what the smeg was going on with such a noise. Sounded like the entire box was going to come out
It's been OK since but it wasn't a pleasant experience.
Still, easily caught up with the young lad on his R6 - his engine was all scream and the GS was all growl! Lovely
Blip your throttle, as you select neutral.
Exactly, many bikes are like this when either the clutch basket or thrust bearings are worn (or badly designed) and it's often the only way to select neutral
GS_or_bust
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The f*ck is that it takes a lot less effort than shuffling from foot to foot and would probably result in a significant reduction in the 'I can't find neutral' moaning posts on here.WTF !
fuck that.
i'm very glad i didn't buy one.
i'm very glad i didn't buy one.
GS_or_bust
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I sometimes worry about who's out there
BMW Offroad instructors in Wales said don't bother with neutral and I agree with them.
As I have said in numerous posts, I don't use neutral. Stop in 1st, side stand down and the engine stops. Get off the bike and have a cup of tea whilst everyone else is still trying to find neutral. Get on, pull clutch in, start engine and ride away. I stop at lights with the left foot down and the right foot on the rear brake, in 1st gear with the clutch in. If there is going to be a significant wait I use the kill switch. It beats doing the Hendon shuffle.
You bought a six speed bike, you got neutral for free, so forget about it.
Gossy
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Sounds more like Marlborough Country than Wales
