Clacks , Crunches, or cant get Neutral

To be fair to GS or Bust, I will often kill the motor by simply putting the side stand down. For me, this comes from a habit of leaving the bike in gear when it's on its stand.
I can't say I'd sit at the lights and hit the kill switch rather than find neutral though ... that is a bit daft ... :D
 
I'm with you on this. There isn't a gearbox problem. It's CLUTCH DRAG which is causing these situations.
As a test for your bike try starting it in gear with the clutch lever pulled to check this. If the bike jerks forwards momentarily, a small but detectable amount, then it's clutch drag. I've seen some bikes visibly jerk forwards an inch or two during this test. If it doesn't then you're one of the lucky ones. That's why BMW are experimenting with clutch push rods with extra slots, oil types and oil levels.
It will get worse if the clutch is used a lot in slow moving traffic, from my personal experience.

Well, I've done that test and it don't happen to me!
 
For me, this comes from a habit of leaving the bike in gear when it's on its stand.

I always leave mine in 1st when on the side stand.:rob Well, I have done for the last few months.:augie
 
I can see why some riders with joint problems might need to select neutral to rest their hands when waiting at lights but I would be interested to know why you feel the need to select neutral before switching the engine off. What is the benefit?

Neutral is a basic selection in every gearbox that's why.
Stop go stop go traffic, oh and what happens if you actually want to push the fecking bag of shit (and being what it is that's very likely!) ? Or are you suggesting just pull the clutch in and push it ?

Full loaded with the back wheel on the ground how do you roll back onto the main stand ? Loads of reasons you need neutral if you think about it. :blast
 
The new GS has the irritating symbol on the dash to tell you when to change gear, to get the best fuel consumption.:rolleyes: The dealer disabled that feature on mine before I even picked the bike up.:beerjug: They know me too well!:D

May be not it will only get deleted because I wasnt technical enough.
 
I've stopped worrying about the clunky box. Alright it was super smooth when I got it it but 2000 miles in two months and it's a bit clunky. I have started clutch less shifting now and there is no clunking at all.....super smooth again....well, when I don't fcuk it up

I did 53 miles when it was p*ssing it down today (got caught out). And was very impressed with the protection from the rain. I would have been soaked from head to toe on the r1 but stayed fairly dry on the gs

I've had some minor niggles fixed and am really starting to enjoy the bike now
 
I did 53 miles when it was p*ssing it down today (got caught out). And was very impressed with the protection from the rain. I would have been soaked from head to toe on the r1 but stayed fairly dry on the gs
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Hammy, I got caught out in heavy rain a few weeks ago and was shocked how wet the back and inside of my legs got. The rest of me was mainly OK, but my legs were sopping....how did you stay so dry?

My old CB was bad for throwing shit up all over my rear seat, my back and even my lid...but nothing over the back of my legs.
I was really surprised by how wet I got on the GS.
 
I did 53 miles when it was p*ssing it down today (got caught out). And was very impressed with the protection from the rain. I would have been soaked from head to toe on the r1 but stayed fairly dry on the gs
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WARNING :topic

Hammy, I got caught out in heavy rain a few weeks ago and was shocked how wet the back and inside of my legs got. The rest of me was mainly OK, but my legs were sopping....how did you stay so dry?

My old CB was bad for throwing shit up all over my rear seat, my back and even my lid...but nothing over the back of my legs.
I was really surprised by how wet I got on the GS.

Really ? I had leather jacket on with textile trousers. The whole journey took about an hour and the only place I felt any water after an hour and a half was the inside of my arm. There was obviously some water everywhere else but hadn't soaked through yet

Having said that my last two bikes have been an r1 and a versys 650. On either bikes I'd have been dripping wet so I'm using these bikes as a bench mark
 
I rode 220 miles in the rain whilst going to the Black Forest and only had problems with my gloves. My wife on the back got wetter and the bottom of her trousers were very dirty as were the panniers and top box:eek:

So for me it was better than my K1300R but probably worse for my wife.

I am waiting for a rear 'MudSling':thumb2
 
I did 53 miles when it was p*ssing it down today (got caught out). And was very impressed with the protection from the rain. I would have been soaked from head to toe on the r1 but stayed fairly dry on the gs
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WARNING :topic

Hammy, I got caught out in heavy rain a few weeks ago and was shocked how wet the back and inside of my legs got. The rest of me was mainly OK, but my legs were sopping....how did you stay so dry?

My old CB was bad for throwing shit up all over my rear seat, my back and even my lid...but nothing over the back of my legs.
I was really surprised by how wet I got on the GS.

Have a look at the BMW extended rear mudguards.:rob There's a thread on here somewhere about them, with part numbers. I have them on mine, and they help to keep some of the water and crap off the backs of your legs.:thumb:beerjug:
 
I'm with you on this. There isn't a gearbox problem. It's CLUTCH DRAG which is causing these situations.
As a test for your bike try starting it in gear with the clutch lever pulled to check this. If the bike jerks forwards momentarily, a small but detectable amount, then it's clutch drag. I've seen some bikes visibly jerk forwards an inch or two during this test. If it doesn't then you're one of the lucky ones. That's why BMW are experimenting with clutch push rods with extra slots, oil types and oil levels.
It will get worse if the clutch is used a lot in slow moving traffic, from my personal experience.

There is some clutch drag, it is worse when cold - the bike will jerk forwards when starting the bike with the clutch lever pulled all the way to the bars, it will be more noticeable the lighter the rider - some of the larger Tossers on here provide sufficient additional mass that no amount of clutch drag would be noticeable :D.

This is the only niggle that I have with the bike - the actual gear changes, up and down, are fine and neutral is no harder to find than on any other bike I have had and that includes my previous 2 1200GSs.
 
Have a look at the BMW extended rear mudguards.:rob There's a thread on here somewhere about them, with part numbers. I have them on mine, and they help to keep some of the water and crap off the backs of your legs.:thumb:beerjug:

I've thought about these, but the issue I have is that the mudguard extenders don't divert the dirt anywhere but actually cover the areas that get caked with crap.

As I see it, the MudSling keeps the dirt away from the shock area and provides a smooth area that is easy to clean*.

I guess the answer is to have both.




* I keep my bike clean, very clean and I'm very happy with that. :thumb
 
I've thought about these, but the issue I have is that the mudguard extenders don't divert the dirt anywhere but actually cover the areas that get caked with crap.

As I see it, the MudSling keeps the dirt away from the shock area and provides a smooth area that is easy to clean*.

I guess the answer is to have both.




* I keep my bike clean, very clean and I'm very happy with that. :thumb

Adapt this and you can remain spotless morning noon an night :D
 

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Just had clutch push rod replaced today and told to ride "briskly" (sorry officer I was just obeying orders))to get the excess oil on the clutch plates to dissipate. This however could take up to 500 miles (according to the BMW tech sheet).

Gear engagement feels different to what it was and haven't had a really noisy one yet.

So 60 brisk miles done, 440 to go.

Also service guy said that he had not heard anything about soft rear pads, and put it down to binding brake callipers.

Salesman had not heard any thing about clunking gear selection on a minority of bikes (mod was a complete surprise to him), despite service guy telling me (previously) that the demo suffers with it along with a number of customers bikes! No communication there then.
 
Salesman had not heard any thing about clunking gear selection on a minority of bikes (mod was a complete surprise to him), despite service guy telling me (previously) that the demo suffers with it along with a number of customers bikes! No communication there then.

Bloody salesmen.:blast Of course he knows about it.:rob:mad:
 


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