Assumption.....the mother of all feck ups
They may just be waiting for the warrantees to all run out and fix the 2014 bike by making it an auto
Clacks , Crunches, or cant get Neutral
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Assumption.....the mother of all feck ups
They may just be waiting for the warrantees to all run out and fix the 2014 bike by making it an auto
The GSA is already in production so engine wise its the same as the 2014 apart from the flywheel, so if the GS still suffers with issues so will the GSA.
However after nearly 1000 posts regarding these issues, i do think some bods may pick up on the fact that if they go and spit there dummy out complaining of said issues, regardless if the issues are in there head or they actually do have these they may get to upgrade to the GSA because it seems there's a few whom now want a GSA over a GS, so makes sense paying only the difference rather than losing ££££ in depreciation !
However after nearly 1000 posts regarding these issues, i do think some bods may pick up on the fact that if they go and spit there dummy out complaining of said issues, regardless if the issues are in there head or they actually do have these they may get to upgrade to the GSA because it seems there's a few whom now want a GSA over a GS, so makes sense paying only the difference rather than losing ££££ in depreciation !
'Cogs' are NOT grinding it's the dogs on the gear shafts that are engaging with a 'clunk' so you are NOT grinding away the 'cogs' - don't worry. If you want a smooth down change just give the engine a little blip before you select the next gear and you will find that 99% of the 'clonk' goes away
Chippy Wood of Bike Magazine basically said that the gearbox was a little notchy he did NOT say it was crap - he's description was spot on. He had put 8,000 miles on the bike so even allowing for journalistic licence his comments do have some validity.
The guy who did that video was changing gear very naively in my opinion - one has to adapt to a bikes characteristics, they are all different! I reckon that if he 'blipped' the throttle a tad on down changes then most of his issues would go away.
P.S. the clonking in my opinion is entirely down to a little too much clutch drag, whether or not BMW can do anything about it without causing clutch slip I don't know but I am sure that they are looking into it.
The guy who did that video was changing gear very naively in my opinion - one has to adapt to a bikes characteristics, they are all different! I reckon that if he 'blipped' the throttle a tad on down changes then most of his issues would go away.
P.S. the clonking in my opinion is entirely down to a little too much clutch drag, whether or not BMW can do anything about it without causing clutch slip I don't know but I am sure that they are looking into it.
Really ?
From BMW to me:
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clutch pressure piece part replaced,this may tend to improve the disengagement behaviour of the clutch and therefore the shiftability.
BMW are aware that your bike is experiencing a poor shift.
If further work produces service measures BMW will inform the dealers of which path to take !!!
Regards,
Hans"
So , I have a letter from BMW in which they admit there is a issue . Also they work to remedy the issue.
So to all the experts, doubters etc. Is official :THERE IS A PROBLEM
Still, I started to get used to it as it is
From BMW to me:
"
clutch pressure piece part replaced,this may tend to improve the disengagement behaviour of the clutch and therefore the shiftability.
BMW are aware that your bike is experiencing a poor shift.
If further work produces service measures BMW will inform the dealers of which path to take !!!
Regards,
Hans"
So , I have a letter from BMW in which they admit there is a issue . Also they work to remedy the issue.
So to all the experts, doubters etc. Is official :THERE IS A PROBLEM
Still, I started to get used to it as it is
Perhaps if BMW had made the bike so you could have an engine oil in the engine and a gearbox oil in the gearbox, then it wouldn't have been too much of the issue/problem/fault/dilemma it is turning into
A gearchange that is hard to operate and one that in the longer term will maybe cause undue wear and tear - this is not a minor problem................................. it's a big flaw
It's pretty off putting to a lot of current owners and will maybe affect sales in future
A gearchange that is hard to operate and one that in the longer term will maybe cause undue wear and tear - this is not a minor problem................................. it's a big flaw
It's pretty off putting to a lot of current owners and will maybe affect sales in future
Really ?
From BMW to me:
"
clutch pressure piece part replaced,this may tend to improve the disengagement behaviour of the clutch and therefore the shiftability.
BMW are aware that your bike is experiencing a poor shift.
If further work produces service measures BMW will inform the dealers of which path to take !!!
Regards,
Hans"
So , I have a letter from BMW in which they admit there is a issue . Also they work to remedy the issue.
So to all the experts, doubters etc. Is official :THERE IS A PROBLEM
Still, I started to get used to it as it is
They have said that they are aware that YOUR bike is experiencing a poor shift.
shortywilliam
Registered user
Yes and mine and a minority of other owners.
jonnyp
Registered user
And that could be the problem, there is possibly only a minority of owners with an issue.
If it were the majority, we may see BMW escalate the issue!
There is a video somewhere of a bloke riding a 1150GS around the Isle of Man and you can hear the gearbox clonk each time he changes gear
E. Buygum
Registered user
The GS has topped the sales charts every single month since March when the LC was released - 7 months in a row - not bad for a bike with a 'crap' gear box 
needlongerlegs
Registered user
The GS has topped the sales charts every single month since March when the LC was released - 7 months in a row - not bad for a bike with a 'crap' gear box
Yup and we should all eat shit too, as two million flies cant be wrong.
And which department of BMW do you work for? they should sack you and employ a proper transmission engineer LOL
I don't work for BMW - the figures didn't come from BMW they come from UK MCIA the industry's association - if the gearbox was that bad (apart from a few broken ones) then how come so many people are buying this bike and not whinging?
Paul, hasn't just paid £14k for it though
It's still got a clonky gearbox though - in fact the 1150 was always slated for its agricultural gearbox as well as being underpowered and overweight
some of then do have nice shiny black tanks though
It's still got a clonky gearbox though - in fact the 1150 was always slated for its agricultural gearbox as well as being underpowered and overweight
It was only slated by mard arse riders of sports bikes. The 1150 box is snickerty boo for those of us who expect a bike to be a bike and not a sewing machine
Under powered and overweight is every GS ever produced including the LC. Ride a Busa or for that matter a modern 600, either will waste a GS easily. If power was a deal breaker, the bike wouldn't sell a single unit.
It's still got a clonky gearbox though - in fact the 1150 was always slated for its agricultural gearbox as well as being underpowered and overweight
Every bike ever made by BMW has had complaints about the gearbox, as far back as 1932. Same goes for being underpowered and the excess weight.
Emoto
Registered user
I would love for you to ride one of the "troubled" bikes and hear your opinion.
My LC hasnt got a clunky gearbox, it isnt under-powered nor is it overweight. Happy.