Clutch squeal

[dubster]

As per the title...on letting out the clutch from a cold start

1150gsa with 85k and still on the original clutch, been getting the occasional slip recently but I guess this noise would be a bearing

Probably time to split her in two?

 

[Steptoe]

Could be the slave cylinder bearing.

 

[dubster]

Could be the slave cylinder bearing.

Thank you Steptoe

Is it easy to pull out? (as it were)

 

[sykospain]

I already asked Neil ( Steptoe ) whether the rear frame's crossbar, that obstructs access to the slave cylinder, can be removed after taking off the rear wheel, shocker and maybe also silencer. I wait now until he gets around from his busy shop to log on here and give us a word of wisdom.

I can't remember whether cylinder removal is possible with such a partial dismantlement - maybe I removed it only when I did the full 2-hour tail-up clutch job when fitting the new revised friction plate with the longer hub. Now made in Italy and supplied NOT by our esteemed forum site sponsor spares people, but by Motorworks in Yokk-shurrrr, ey-up, lad..

When attending to the issue of a new slave cylinder, Chris Harris notes in his earlier videos that it's far easier to remove the banjo bolts that secure the clutch hoses on the pathetic item, if the cylinder is completely removed from the back of the tranny. He consistently recommends that a new cylinder be fitted and also that a SpeedBleeder should replace the infamous "Werkstück" on the end of the bleeder hose.

I also seem to remember that accessing the slave cylinder attachments while it's obscured by the intervening crossbar is a real PITA.
Here's a useful vodiodi on the topic :-

https://youtu.be/cYPAmrUyiyA

 

[Steptoe]

Thank you Steptoe

Is it easy to pull out? (as it were)

Yes, for me

Remove rear wheel and rear shock absorber. Undo the the three bolts holding the slave in place.

THIS IS THE TRICK - Undo the top fork nut on the lefthand fork leg, push the fork tube down and move the clutch line "this side" of the fork leg -this is so you have enough slack in the clutch line to be able to pull the slave cylinder out from the rear.

You twist and pull at an angle and the slave cylinder can be pulled out from inbetween the gap of the airbox and the gearbox "crossbar".

You then have enough slack to be able to work on the slave and undo the clutch lines -

refitting it is a reversal of the removal, don't forget to re-route the clutch line back around the fork leg..

And another thing, bleed the clutch before refitting the slave to the rear of the gearbox. And the easiest and best way is to push the slave piston all the way in and clamp it and then bleed the clutch, that way you'll have no air trapped in the slave cylinder.

 

[sykospain]

What a gent Steptoe is - unselfishly sharing his expertise. Brilliant.
Thanks Neil !

 

[Rugged Path]

I had a look for 10 x 1mm speedbleeders on eBay and Amazon but all are from the US and shipping costs more.
Must be somewhere in the U.K. to buy.


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[mikeyboy]

I had a look for 10 x 1mm speedbleeders on eBay and Amazon but all are from the US and shipping costs more.
Must be somewhere in the U.K. to buy.


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I just use an m10x 1 bleed nipple

 

[dubster]

What a gent Steptoe is - unselfishly sharing his expertise. Brilliant.
Thanks Neil !

I was just about to say the same, pure gold. I will give this a go once I get back to my tools and try to post some pics...

Many thanks Neil

 

[sykospain]

Living in Spain, i got my SpeedBleeders from a German company to avoid X-channel shipping charges.

Two Czech girls who run a company called "Bike-Teile-Service" ( bike parts service ) near the historic, completely rebuilt city of Stuttgart in southern Germany, only charge eight snoojits 40 for a Goodridge SpeedBleeder nipple that you need to replace the standard plain bleed nipple. I ordered 4. One for the rear brake caliper, two for the front calipers and one for the end of the clutch bleed hose.

I'm paying thirteen snoojits for a Deutsche Post shipping from Stuttgart to south-eastern mainland Spain. The cost of a round of beers for 4 pals ¿ So am I bovvered ?

Their website will quote whatever the shipping charges across the channel will come to - its comprehensive pages are also available in englisch.

 

[Steptoe]

I was just about to say the same, pure gold. I will give this a go once I get back to my tools and try to post some pics...

Many thanks Neil

Of course you understand that the squeal may not even be your clutch slave cylinder.

 

[dubster]

Of course you understand that the squeal may not even be your clutch slave cylinder.

Yes but I'm going on probablity based on you being mostly correct

200 miles today in intermittent rain and the squeal has started even with clutch out

Am if doomed?
Catastrophic failure incoming or just keep running until I get some time off to do the work?