Conversion to 'normal' indicator switchgear?

"give it time you will get used to it" The toggle switches are brilliant, they are right there at the tips of your thumbs. The WC switch has to be reached for meaning a change of hand position for me and vital milliseconds.

Absolutely - if I could change my TC R1200RT to the "three paddle system" I would, like a shot. The only thing I don't like about it is the "conventional style" of indicator switch.
 
FFS the 'BMW' switchgear put me off buying BMW for over 15 years, I bought my First new brand new bike a BMW 7 years ago, took all of a week to get used to the indicators, no big deal, if they bother you that much get rid of it, if you cant adapt to them then maybe rethink the two wheel thing!


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I must admit that I do prefer the paddle indicator system but every single time when I have needed to use the horn I have ended up politely flashing the left indicator instead
 
If you struggle with different switch configurations do you really think it's wise to ride a motorbike?

Fcuk! I best get my bikes on Ebay sharpish - then....... :blast

Everyone has a preference, and everyone is correct .............. for them.

I get used to the BMW paddles, and then struggle a bit when I switch to my one "normal" bike. No problem when I switch back though - which confirms my own opinion - that the BMW paddles suit me better.

Al
 
Everyone has a preference, and everyone is correct .............. for them.



Al

Not really, some people can adapt others can't. The latter should stick to cars or in severe cases walking

My job involves getting in or on anything and operating it with precision, I don't think this would suit someone who struggles with a fecking indicator being in a different place.

On the flip side I can't spell or write very well so shouldn't do office type work. But it hasn't stopped many people pointing out my grammatical ineptitude on this forum over the years.

We are all told we can do anything and I'm sorry but too many blokes believe this and ride motorbikes
 
I like the Hexhead paddle switches. I don't like the daft indicator cancel that's so awkward to reach especially when I'm working the throttle. What is so wrong with hitting the same button to cancel it - click on - click off?. Oh yes that's what Harley do. Cant be copying them, can we. Oh no.
 
The indicator switches are fine. It's the horn and cancel buttons that are just wrong. They go to prove that the germans DO have a sense of humour, and they are also cnuts.
 
We are all told we can do anything and I'm sorry but too many blokes believe this and ride motorbikes

We must be able to ride bikes or lots of us would be dead. I've been doing it most days for 30 years and I'm not dead yet.

Presumably this will set me up nicely for a fatal accident on the way home tonight, just to teach me not to be a smart-arse.

I think I'll ring the wife before I set off and tell her where the life insurance documents are
 
In terms of ZF programming it would surely be least cost to have the left and right paddles with ZF logic to start or stop the indicator flasher.
Press a paddle
Is left or right already flashing?
If yes - stop flashers
If no - start flasher on side of paddle used.
All done with two switches so that annoying cancel paddle can now be used for something useful.
 
In terms of ZF programming it would surely be least cost to have the left and right paddles with ZF logic to start or stop the indicator flasher.
Press a paddle
Is left or right already flashing?
If yes - stop flashers
If no - start flasher on side of paddle used.
All done with two switches.
Yes it would be but BMW didn't and they aren't going to reprogram it now for an obsolete model.
They stuck with those switches for years in the belief it was the best system. Some complain bitterly and others love them. Eventually they dumped the system in favour of a more Japanese version and guess what? Some are complaining bitterly and some love them.

Your dammed if you do and your dammed if you don't.

Like I said before if there is something about the stock self cancel timeing you don't like then go to the dealer and get it changed so you never have to use the cancel button.
 
Yes it would be but BMW didn't and they aren't going to reprogram it now for an obsolete model.
They stuck with those switches for years in the belief it was the best system. Some complain bitterly and others love them. Eventually they dumped the system in favour of a more Japanese version and guess what? Some are complaining bitterly and some love them.

Your dammed if you do and your dammed if you don't.

Unfortunately they didn't copy the japs fully, they still had to do it their own way. Jap switchgear is fine.

Like I said before if there is something about the stock self cancel timeing you don't like then go to the dealer and get it changed so you never have to use the cancel button.

Sometimes the self cancel is too long (junctions that are very close to each other), sometimes it's too short (big roundabouts).
 
Yes it would be but BMW didn't and they aren't going to reprogram it now for an obsolete model.
They stuck with those switches for years in the belief it was the best system. Some complain bitterly and others love them. Eventually they dumped the system in favour of a more Japanese version and guess what? Some are complaining bitterly and some love them. Your dammed if you do and your dammed if you don't.
Like I said before if there is something about the stock self cancel timeing you don't like then go to the dealer and get it changed so you never have to use the cancel button.
I've had mine re-set so they don't self-cancel, so the onus is on me to decide when to "cancel".
As to the change from three-paddles to "Japanese style", I suspect it was for two reasons.
A) A lot of the press slagged it off, as it was different to the norm. The fact that owners in many cases came to prefer it was neither here nor there, &
B) It freed up space on increasingly crowded handlebars, for the goodies.
Just look at the switches on an 1150; only 10 years ago or so, but positively sparse by comparison.
 
We must be able to ride bikes or lots of us would be dead. I've been doing it most days for 30 years and I'm not dead yet.

Presumably this will set me up nicely for a fatal accident on the way home tonight, just to teach me not to be a smart-arse.

I think I'll ring the wife before I set off and tell her where the life insurance documents are

Luckily, I got home in one piece, despite trying to sit on my elbows instead of my arse. Phew!
 
Not really, some people can adapt others can't. The latter should stick to cars or in severe cases walking

My job involves getting in or on anything and operating it with precision, I don't think this would suit someone who struggles with a fecking indicator being in a different place.

On the flip side I can't spell or write very well so shouldn't do office type work. But it hasn't stopped many people pointing out my grammatical ineptitude on this forum over the years.

We are all told we can do anything and I'm sorry but too many blokes believe this and ride motorbikes

You're absolutely fcuking wonderful - you are! :rolleyes:
 


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