cops n doughnuts

[rockchunk]

rode in to inverary this morning to be greeted by two motorcycle cops then another two turn up then moments later another two thats six freekin motorcycle cops a thought they must have opened a doughnut stall anyway not wanting to pre judge anyone i listend to there banter and was begining to think these guys seem ok when they turn round and do the guy with the ktm adventure for not displaying a tax disk even though he had bought one on line and was awaiting its delivery which im sure they could have checked on the feckers gave him a sixty quid fixed penalty for not displaying it nearly had us fooled the fat ginger besterd,,so be aware these kunts are kunts and remember a closed mouth catches no flies

 

[columbus]

Its a £30 fine not £60.

 

[Jon]

they turn round and do the guy with the ktm adventure for not displaying a tax disk even though he had bought one on line and was awaiting its delivery which im sure they could have checked on

Is he a mate? From your post sounds like he was there, but not with you.

Maybe they did check & maybe he hadn't..............How many times have you heard & d'you think they've heard "it's in the post............."

My bike never has a tax disc on display, cos it's £30 to get a replacement if it's nicked - half a years tax. It's either carried on me, or laminated and stuck to the fuse box lid under the seat. That was a recommendation from a bike cop too.

I've done a Bikesafe day like that with no problems at all - in fact that's where the recommendation came from as I always used to just carry it with my licence & MOT in my jacket.

I've never heard of anyone being done for failure to display when they are actually taxed, only people getting "producers".........

 

[boatman]

i also got done today fr f all really we a ke the fecin ejits that only ride in the the finr weather come oot at this time o the year n get them sels kilt then( something has to be done aboot this) n whack wir gettin din fr fac a nae wuner thir ca n thim kuntz the mibbie s think this is smart but in the long term respect is getting lost by the kind o bikers that really could make a diffirence given a bit of encouragement n supporteek the wee laddie that did me had nae idea at all!!!!!!! AV bin riding n covering the continent since lang before he wis born!!!!!!! ach am jist pissed aff n rantin

 

[Jon]

Even thou me Grandaddy was Scottish, but I'm having trouble understanding that

 

[boatman]

sorry jon i have had one ,or was it two little refreshments it,s just been that sort of day

 

[KMD]

S33 Vehicle Excise Regulations Act 1994. Fail to display current VEL, non endorsable fixed penalty of £30. However the prosecution policy of many force's for this offence is a verbal warning.

In practise the verbal warning element gets removed when other offences or factors which may influence the outcome are present.

£60 non-endorsable fixed penalty tickets do exist and are more commonly used by Traffic and ANPR units.

 

[MacFarlane]

ke the fecin ejits that only ride in the the finr weather come oot at this time o the year n get them sels kilt then( something has to be done aboot this)

Aye, that's why the 'ELECTED'? government is limiting the speed limit to 50mph

 

[boatman]

aye n notae be political but the sooner this lot are oot on thir arses the better this once proud country is a complete mess of fantasy n pollitical corectness n as fur pensions its a richt if yer on te state the rest o the people that are trying tae be proud n independant well feck them seems to be the goverments way , where they think money really is made seems tae be a mystery to them

 

[(RIP) Proff]

All tax discs attached to my bikes are photocopies.
the originals are usually inside pannier lid or carried in the wobblybox when we are touring....
Advice from a Bike copper years ago after I'd had 2 pinched within 3 weeks

 

[tommymoto]

i also got done today fr f all really we a ke the fecin ejits that only ride in the the finr weather come oot at this time o the year n get them sels kilt then( something has to be done aboot this) n whack wir gettin din fr fac a nae wuner thir ca n thim kuntz the mibbie s think this is smart but in the long term respect is getting lost by the kind o bikers that really could make a diffirence given a bit of encouragement n supporteek the wee laddie that did me had nae idea at all!!!!!!! AV bin riding n covering the continent since lang before he wis born!!!!!!! ach am jist pissed aff n rantin

Made perfect sense to me

 

[Taff]

Made perfect sense to me

You must be as pissed as he is.

All tax discs attached to my bikes are photocopies. the originals are usually inside pannier lid or carried in the wobblybox when we are touring.... Advice from a Bike copper years ago

Cracking idea. Funnily enough I'm due to fix my tax disk tonight, so now I'm going to colour photocopy it, stamp "Copy" on it and get it laminated.

 

[pablo666]

I don't know about the law in Scotland, but here in Northants, (Poss all Eng and Wales?) The police have had the power to issue tickets for no tax displayed removed. (Not sure if that was just by the Chief Const. or National decision?).

We do issue a form CLE/26 which looks like a ticket, but is only notification that a report is being sent to the DVLA that your vehicle was seen on a public road at a time and date. (Any action is then taken by DVLA who don't if the veh is taxed.)

That means any ppl declared SORN get caught out if seen on the roads etc. but law abiding tax paying ppl don't get caught in the net.

Mt Bike tax disc is tucked away at home. Never yet been a problem and I park in a police station yard!

 

[MikeP]

Cracking idea. Funnily enough I'm due to fix my tax disk tonight, so now I'm going to colour photocopy it, stamp "Copy" on it and get it laminated.

If you actually have a current VEL but are wary about displaying it because of the theft risk, better than run the risk of copying the VEL (which is an offence too) do this:

Get an old holder. Snap off the bit that the VEL goes into and then attach the tab to a suitable bolt somewhere on the bike.

If someone raises the "fail to display" issue, gasp, point to the broken tab and say, "Well roger me senseless with your baton officer. It was there when I set out. How do I report the loss and obtain a duplicate?"

As long as the DVLA records show that there is a current VEL in force, no-one will bother beyond that point.

"Why aren't you doing something useful like catching rapists and murderers instead of picking-on me?" is not a recommended response.

 

[MikeP]

I don't know about the law in Scotland, but here in Northants, (Poss all Eng and Wales?) The police have had the power to issue tickets for no tax displayed removed. (Not sure if that was just by the Chief Const. or National decision?).

I always questioned the power to issue FPN for "fail to display" as it's an Excise offence and the prosecuting authority remains with the DVLA as the revenue agency.

I'd assumed that police had been granted new powers since my day (as you say, it was always CLE2/6 and then up to DVLA to take any action. Police only used to report the facts to DVLA).

 

[skinnersscotch]

I was out on a run yesterday and on the way to Callander an SV rode past us on the wrong side of double whites and was still on the wrong side approaching a blind right hander. The orads were busy yesterday but he was lucky and no-one was coming the other way.

Another time he would have been a fatal accident statistic which brings the cops out in their droves.

Don't have a go at the cops, have a go at the fecking idiots who are the cause of the cops being out there in the first place.

 

[skinnersscotch]

When a cop checks out a vehicle he is likely to me told if there is a VEL or that it has expired. This info is updated usually no longer than 48 hours after the Excise is paid. Get stopped on a Sunday without a VEL and showing expired on PNC you get a ticket.

If it wasnae an offence to fail to display, no-one would display and the cops would spend all your hard earned tax checking whether you had tax or not.

For info, I have my tax displayed in a simple but effective holder which bolts to the bike and held closed by bolts. Nothing fancy. And my bike is parked where ne'rdowells are free to approach it. Never had one stolen yet, except when they took the whole bike!

I have said elsewhere, we should be having a go at the idiots who ride like they are on the track at Knockhill rather than the open road. It is them that cause all the cops to be there. Bet there were no cops in the city centres yesterday cause numpties on bikes weren't trying to kill themselves there.

We saw one yesterday, wrong side of the road into a blind right hander. A fatal accident looking for somewhere to happen.

 

[Zundapp]

Just shows you! I was out on the bike yesterday, ferry to Dunoon-Inveraray-Green Welly-Callander and back to Ayrshire. And never saw a single policeman/car/bike the whole day. (Which was a surprise, cos it was a brilliant day and pretty busy).

And rockchunk sees six all at once. They must be after him...

 

[Boon]

Invarary is becoming a busy wee toon with bikers.........probrably why the bike cops head there.

Passed thru it on sunday and it was fair teemin with bikes.......went out on a similar route yesterday and it was still busy with bikes.

did near 200 miles yesterday and never saw a cop car

sunday was differnt though...........all over the place with a 2 car speed trap set up o/s oban...........fortunately i got flashed/hand signalled about 20 times before I reached it


Actually behaved masel goin thru glencoe.....just in case

 

[roddy]

there does seem to be a higher presence of traffic cops on the roads through the central belt in general this year.

last year I could count on one hand how many I saw this year, they seem to be all over the place, which IMHO is a good thing the standard of driving from all walks of life improves considerable when the cops are about.