Death of a GS

[Norfolk Tiger]

Beautiful bike and very nice to see him smiling after the ordeal.

Agreed, spending time with Rick must be an ordeal

 

[Roadrash Rider]

Agreed, spending time with Rick must be an ordeal

 

[Micky]

Agreed, spending time with Rick must be an ordeal

I guess someone has to do it NT

Might as well be Andy

 

[ButtonMoon]

Main thing is Andy is ok ! Good rider (gets lost as does Rick), top bloke I'd ride with Andy anytime.


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[Roberto]

Good luck with the new bike! looks lovely

 

[RedRick Esq.]

Main thing is Andy is ok ! Good rider (gets lost as does Rick), top bloke I'd ride with Andy anytime.


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I have a bike that needs more fuel stops than that bloody KTM as well

 

[Roadrash Rider]

Main thing is Andy is ok ! Good rider (gets lost as does Rick), top bloke I'd ride with Andy anytime.


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You sir are a gent.

And i will never again be able to take the piss regarding writing of a GS or GSA?

 

[thumperbob2002]

I've read a bit of this thread. Some quite good comments, some very novicey type iam rubbish.

Reason for the crash? Rider error pure and simple. Not leaning with the bike at all and poor choice of line. Probably throttled off, suspension reduced travel and grounded. If he leant with the bike there would have been no problem.

Sat nav on- rear diff problem- oil on road??? Please!!

 

[Blackal]

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[Warlord]

I've read a bit of this thread. Some quite good comments, some very novicey type iam rubbish.

Reason for the crash? Rider error pure and simple. Not leaning with the bike at all and poor choice of line. Probably throttled off, suspension reduced travel and grounded. If he leant with the bike there would have been no problem.

Sat nav on- rear diff problem- oil on road??? Please!!

This is what happened....

Matey steaming in, severe lean angle as corner radius tightens up mid turn, grounds engine casing (which is the big black centre line).... loses front wheel, bike spins slowly into a broadside while skipping along the road. Job done.

Left hand scrape is Handlebar as it moves about. Right hand scrape is rear tyre tread scuffing.

I'm IAM Advanced and agree with you.

 

[johnnyboy]

I'm IAM Advanced and agree with you.

Does that make you special or does it just make you feel special?

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[MikeO]

Does that make you special or does it just make you feel special?

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Failed the test again, eh?

 

[johnnyboy]

Failed the test again, eh?

What test?

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[Warlord]

Does that make you special or does it just make you feel special?

I'm already special, my Mum and carers all say so.

This just makes me FEEL extra special. I got a certificate and everything

 

[Tractors are go]

Your certified, why are we not surprised !

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[iandavid]

Whatever the main and contributing causes of this particular 'off', one thing is clear: on the road or track, your body position should be such that it allows the bike to be as upright as possible for maximum adhesion. If you stay more upright, the bike has to lean over further to compensate at the same speed, pushing the limits of the tyres and decreasing the margin before something solid touches down. Neither of these things are positive whether in steady state, under braking or under acceleration. Whilst they may help, neither traction control nor ABS Pro can change the laws of physics.

We will probably never know exactly what happened here but, whatever the cause(s) of this 'off' (catastrophic loss of control is never 'just one of those things'), we can all examine our cornering technique to ensure we're working with our bike and not against it. It's an I'll wind, etc.

Actually the tyre has a bigger contact area and thus more grip lean't over than in the upright position

 

[Blackal]

Actually the tyre has a bigger contact area and thus more grip lean't over than in the upright position

It has more grip, but has to deal with higher forces - the net result being that with a low COG - you can reach a higher cornering speed for the same bike angle.....

They way you describe it - makes you wonder why the racers try and get the bike upright as soon as possible exiting a bend???

 

[N111BJG]

I was scared to go back to this thread in case it was news that he'd binned the new bike

Fortunately that's seemingly not the case

Just something boring about cornering & IAM pomposity, normality is resumed