buckles
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utter bollox,
I think may find it is a CVT. Belt driven pulleys,
clutch is centrifugal, and from what I've heard the earlier type smart engines had valve issues.
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I think may find it is a CVT. Belt driven pulleys,
clutch is centrifugal, and from what I've heard the earlier type smart engines had valve issues.
Myke Rocks
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Gearbox type
Well, I have looked at the photos, and it is definitely the same gearbox as in a Smart ForTwo, right down to the differential housing where the drive shaft comes out of.
The clutch behaves like a centrifugal one, but is actually servo operated.
(to permit gearchanges)
Re. Engine problems. All engine problems were related to Petrol engines, especially if boost was raised.
The petrol version of these engines is now abandoned by Smart in favour of a Mitsubishi unit.
Myke
utter bollox,
I think may find it is a CVT. Belt driven pulleys,
Well, I have looked at the photos, and it is definitely the same gearbox as in a Smart ForTwo, right down to the differential housing where the drive shaft comes out of.
The clutch behaves like a centrifugal one, but is actually servo operated.
(to permit gearchanges)
Re. Engine problems. All engine problems were related to Petrol engines, especially if boost was raised.
The petrol version of these engines is now abandoned by Smart in favour of a Mitsubishi unit.
Myke
midnitemo
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Thanks Micky, can't give to much away as it may scupper talks with BMW etc, all the major bike manufacturers have been round to my house for tea, 100+ MPG will run on bio oil and cherry an i get laughed at
. It pulls like a train which is wot you'd expect from a 1000cc turbo diesel, the whole outfit weighs around 380 KGs but as yet it won't corner so its back to work with the angle grinder, oh an it smokes a bit on cold start ups cos i only wired one circuit into the glow plugs. I just luv the sound o that turbo
. have a listen on here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6JqdHrmzgw
That track bike is great tho, saw it at the dieselbike rally last year, sounds great to. Who would not want a bike that is more economical, after all the stuff is only ever going to get more expensive.
Hi Buckles , saw the bike and chatted to you sunday morning at the black pig rally , i see you've since made a guard for the turbo!...how many pairs of waterproofs did you wreck in the meantime? does the tank warm up on a long run? could be usefull and if you go into production i could be interested for my deep winter euro excursions i'm doing next year.
DutchBryn
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cvt or not (to be)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ar-eVG9Tc
Have listen 'bout 40 secs in. Not conclusive, but the bike drones away into the middle distance. I can't hear gear changes (ie in steps). Anyone else?
I've got an NLs mag somewhere with a fairly lengthy article on this bike.
But from memory (!), they chose their tranny for it's compactness, fitting a perspex cover to the test mule to keep an eye on the gubbins inside. Temp. probes, too.
I'll dig it out if the the point really matters to anyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ar-eVG9Tc
Have listen 'bout 40 secs in. Not conclusive, but the bike drones away into the middle distance. I can't hear gear changes (ie in steps). Anyone else?
I've got an NLs mag somewhere with a fairly lengthy article on this bike.
But from memory (!), they chose their tranny for it's compactness, fitting a perspex cover to the test mule to keep an eye on the gubbins inside. Temp. probes, too.
I'll dig it out if the the point really matters to anyone.
bogman
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This "ahem" bike was voted bike of the Chopper club rally 2009 by the public.e
Engine Daihatsu charade 3 cyl turbo diesel
Engine Daihatsu charade 3 cyl turbo diesel
Myke Rocks
Registered user
A Possible Diesel Motorcycle Engine
First of all, apologies to others regarding Track 800 transmission. You are correct. It is now automatic. The photos I looked at were off an earlier prototype with the 6 speed transmission.
Now: on to other matters.
Having spent a lifetime looking at engine designs, a couple of years ago I finally came up with a design which I believe to be markedly superior to any existing design. It is also suitable for fitment to a motorcycle. This design is a horizontally opposed, double diameter, Scotch yoke two stroke.
The Scotch yoke has frictional losses associated with it which are comparable with conventional crankshaft, but since there are no sidethrusts, and since the engine is a horizontally opposed two stroke, the frictional losses are are quartered compared to a conventional four stroke. This is because the energy needed to compress the air in each cylinder is taken directly from the expansion of the opposing cylinder, without going through the crankshaft bearings.
Power output: Probably around 100kw.
This design should provide you with something to chew on.
Regards Myke
First of all, apologies to others regarding Track 800 transmission. You are correct. It is now automatic. The photos I looked at were off an earlier prototype with the 6 speed transmission.
Now: on to other matters.
Having spent a lifetime looking at engine designs, a couple of years ago I finally came up with a design which I believe to be markedly superior to any existing design. It is also suitable for fitment to a motorcycle. This design is a horizontally opposed, double diameter, Scotch yoke two stroke.
The Scotch yoke has frictional losses associated with it which are comparable with conventional crankshaft, but since there are no sidethrusts, and since the engine is a horizontally opposed two stroke, the frictional losses are are quartered compared to a conventional four stroke. This is because the energy needed to compress the air in each cylinder is taken directly from the expansion of the opposing cylinder, without going through the crankshaft bearings.
Power output: Probably around 100kw.
This design should provide you with something to chew on.
Regards Myke
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B Murr
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This "ahem" bike was voted bike of the Chopper club rally 2009 by the public.e
Engine Daihatsu charade 3 cyl turbo diesel
I love the padded seat on the rear mudguard, optimism at its best.
buckles
Registered user
buckles
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Hello, ooops had made a guard for the turbo but didnt get the chance to fit it for the rally, to be honest i didn't think it would get that hot 1000deg, but what do i know, hein gericke suit trousers an a pair of jeans fucked
. tank doesn't get warm but am thinking of making a up heated seat for next years winter rallies. off to east Leeds lions rally this weekend an I've made sure the turbo guard is fittedbeautiful freak
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Hi,
you probably think the Netherlands are flat and muddy. Thats correct. But sometimes we make new roads and then we use A LOT of sand to get a stable base. Last weekend I went to play on such a new road construction site:
So let's stop talking about Diesel
and start riding the #@$% thing! 
Greetings, Tom.
you probably think the Netherlands are flat and muddy. Thats correct. But sometimes we make new roads and then we use A LOT of sand to get a stable base. Last weekend I went to play on such a new road construction site:
So let's stop talking about Diesel
and start riding the #@$% thing! Greetings, Tom.
ahutcheon
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I so wanted this thread to be Snoopy's first ride report...
Hi,
you probably think the Netherlands are flat and muddy. Thats correct. But sometimes we make new roads and then we use A LOT of sand to get a stable base. Last weekend I went to play on such a new road construction site:
So let's stop talking about Diesel
Greetings, Tom.
Looks good Tom, so how does the Track compare to the GS?
Farmer Palmer
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Hi,
you probably think the Netherlands are flat and muddy. Thats correct. But sometimes we make new roads and then we use A LOT of sand to get a stable base. Last weekend I went to play on such a new road construction site:
So let's stop talking about Diesel
Greetings, Tom.
FP.
beautiful freak
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Hi,
Before the Track I had a R 1200 GS Adventure in Desert Yellow and I checked twice this year if the desert was really that shade of Yellow:
But I'm a newbie to offroad riding. I just started October 2009. I still have the GS for backup and comparison. If the Track does all I did with the GS she has to go. I intend to have one bike only to do all I want. A test for next year in planned on Iceland. I will be going there in July for two weeks. Maybe Morocco too sometime next year or later, who knows...
In the mean time I'm "testing" the road handling of the Track. She rides smooth cause the CVT and automatic clutch make it possible. Today the first day with snow on the road, went quite well. More sand tracks here in the Netherlands will follow when whether permits.
Greetings, Tom.
Before the Track I had a R 1200 GS Adventure in Desert Yellow and I checked twice this year if the desert was really that shade of Yellow:
But I'm a newbie to offroad riding. I just started October 2009. I still have the GS for backup and comparison. If the Track does all I did with the GS she has to go. I intend to have one bike only to do all I want. A test for next year in planned on Iceland. I will be going there in July for two weeks. Maybe Morocco too sometime next year or later, who knows...
In the mean time I'm "testing" the road handling of the Track. She rides smooth cause the CVT and automatic clutch make it possible. Today the first day with snow on the road, went quite well. More sand tracks here in the Netherlands will follow when whether permits.
Greetings, Tom.
Farmer Palmer
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Hi Tom, what's the Track ride like compared to the GSA so far and how many KMs are you getting to a tank of fuel?
What is the engine noise like for a diesel and can you hear the turbo whistle much?
FP.
What is the engine noise like for a diesel and can you hear the turbo whistle much?
FP.
Hi Tom, what's the Track ride like compared to the GSA so far and how many KMs are you getting to a tank of fuel?
What is the engine noise like for a diesel and can you hear the turbo whistle much?
FP.
Heres some decent video with sound
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DavidHale
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beautiful freak
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Hi,
according to the web log of the 15th December you can find here Track web log one is coming to the UK soon!
And I must say the Track is doing rather well in the snow here in Holland. The combination of high torque, smooth automatic clutch and Heidenau winter tires work just fine for me. When we slip it's mostly controllable so I didn't had to drop her yet, let's hope it doesn't become any worse. If you like to see Erik on his Track in the snow just take a look here: click here
Greetings, Tom.
according to the web log of the 15th December you can find here Track web log one is coming to the UK soon!
And I must say the Track is doing rather well in the snow here in Holland. The combination of high torque, smooth automatic clutch and Heidenau winter tires work just fine for me. When we slip it's mostly controllable so I didn't had to drop her yet, let's hope it doesn't become any worse. If you like to see Erik on his Track in the snow just take a look here: click here
Greetings, Tom.
Farmer Palmer
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Snow Track!
Excellent videos of the Track on the snow and on the beach!
I wonder what tyres are on the bike?
I'm guessing the smooth power delivery and lower power aswell as less savage 'engine braking' which causes the GS rear wheel to lock up on the snow a bit makes the Track a wee bit more manageable.
I see a few changes to the bike, the exhaust looks different aswell as the swingarm and I like the three headlight arrangement.
How many mles have the 'prototype' or first production bikes done so far? I'm still very interested in this unusual bike and like the uniqueness, it's like nothing else i've seen so far! Even Snoopy's Enfield....!
Lets hope 2011 sees a few more of these bikes on the roads.
FP.
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Excellent videos of the Track on the snow and on the beach!
I wonder what tyres are on the bike?
I'm guessing the smooth power delivery and lower power aswell as less savage 'engine braking' which causes the GS rear wheel to lock up on the snow a bit makes the Track a wee bit more manageable.
I see a few changes to the bike, the exhaust looks different aswell as the swingarm and I like the three headlight arrangement.
How many mles have the 'prototype' or first production bikes done so far? I'm still very interested in this unusual bike and like the uniqueness, it's like nothing else i've seen so far! Even Snoopy's Enfield....!
Lets hope 2011 sees a few more of these bikes on the roads.
FP.
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Farmer Palmer
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The first Track sold in the UK is going to a guy in Sheffield. Very nice!
I wonder what bike he had before ordering the Track and where does he go for servicing?
FP.
I wonder what bike he had before ordering the Track and where does he go for servicing?
FP.
